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Old 02-24-2008, 02:00 PM
 
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Illegal Aliens Bring Generations Of Poverty With Them

EDUCATION
Many legal immigrants to the US are highly educated. In contrast, most illegal aliens are very poorly educated. The average education levels for Mexican fathers, a large component of the illegal alien population, and their U.S.-born children are at the bottom of the educational spectrum.
Uneducated immigrants, regardless of heritage or ethnicity, who have little interest in education, generally end up with poorly educated children. While the averages are already bad, the education gap between Mexican and non-Mexican natives is far larger than the simple averages would indicate..

You can find more such charts here:
Importing Poverty: Immigration and Poverty in the United States: A Book of Charts
Moreover, as noted in Children, Grandchildren Of Mexican Immigrants Fail To Close The Education Gap:
45% of all non-Mexicans have a post HS degree
5.4% of first generation Mexicans have a post HS degree
9.3% of second generation Mexicans have such degrees
8.5% of third generation Mexicans have such degrees
9.6% of fourth generation Mexicans have such degrees
So even in the fourth generation - after at least fifty to sixty years of "assimilation," it appears that the descendents of Mexican immigrants display scant interest in higher education. This is a stunning finding. It belies the expectation that college-based affirmative action programs would eventually level the education playing field.
The stubborn refusal of the mostly Hispanic immigrants to embrace education is also evident at the bottom end of the educational spectrum:
14.6% of first-generation Hispanics are High School dropouts versus 4.6% of first generation non-Hispanics
15.9% of second-generation Hispanics are High School dropouts versus 8.2% of second generation non-Hispanics
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Old 02-24-2008, 03:09 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Culturally speaking: Italians are/were similar to Mexicans.

The big differences being that immigration from most places was all but shut off in 1920 and too many of those Italians who could not hack it here went back to Italy-------leaving those here who were much more likely to assimilate and become true blue Americans
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Old 02-24-2008, 04:13 PM
 
Location: California
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It's really easy to assume as to why illegal aliens bring a generation or two of poverty. 1, the parents are not really for their kids when it comes to school work. 2, they are neglected in general a lot of the time and live in crime ridden neighborhoods. Their kids in turn join gangs and get into all sorts of trouble.
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Old 02-24-2008, 05:01 PM
 
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I live in Chicago and see many, many successful immigrants from all over. Many of our restaurants, dry cleaners, convenience stores, bakeries, delis, self employed skilled craftsman and gas station owners are immigrants. I'm impressed how many seem to move to the United States, save their money wisely and then open their own businesses. It seems that many of them embrace the American dream with gusto and don't take what we have for granted.

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Old 02-24-2008, 05:23 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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I live in Chicago and see many, many successful immigrants from all over. Many of our restaurants, dry cleaners, convenience stores, bakeries, delis, self employed skilled craftsman and gas station owners are immigrants. I'm impressed how many seem to move to the United States, save their money wisely and then open their own businesses. It seems that many of them embrace the American dream with gusto and don't take what we have for granted.
The topic didn't address immigrants, it addressed illegal aliens. They are 2 different groups, try not to confuse them. Thank you.
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Old 02-25-2008, 08:09 AM
 
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I wonder why education is not emphasized in Mexican culture - at least in the illegals' culture.

What DO they emphasize instead? I mean - what else that's positive would someone emphasize for the future of their children?
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Old 02-25-2008, 09:25 AM
 
Location: Missouri of course
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I wonder why education is not emphasized in Mexican culture - at least in the illegals' culture.

What DO they emphasize instead? I mean - what else that's positive would someone emphasize for the future of their children?
The illegals emphasize taking what is not theres to take because they believe that they deserve it.
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Old 02-25-2008, 09:30 AM
 
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All they deserve is a U-turn sign and go back to wherever they came from.
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Old 02-25-2008, 09:39 AM
 
Location: At Sea....and Midwest....
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Wow...I'm shocked...Those are definitely NOT good stats....
How ON EARTH are WE, as Americans....[to include Mexican-Americans here legitimately] going to EVER compete with / against the Chinese [PRC Communist China] and others if we continue to allow this insanity? We are headed for some SERIOUS trouble.....
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Old 02-25-2008, 10:43 AM
 
Location: Missouri of course
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It's really easy to assume as to why illegal aliens bring a generation or two of poverty. 1, the parents are not really for their kids when it comes to school work. 2, they are neglected in general a lot of the time and live in crime ridden neighborhoods. Their kids in turn join gangs and get into all sorts of trouble.
Now, explain to us why we should allow them to stay.
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