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Old 02-26-2008, 10:50 PM
 
Location: The Heart of Dixie
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My dad is a legal citizen from Taiwan and got his citizenship when I was in middle school, I saw him studying him for the test, and the questions are easy as hell. Any 6th grader who pays any attention in history and social studies class can pass it. They asked things like what the capital of the US is, how many stars are on the flag, what the 13 stripes represent, who the first President was, who freed the slaves, who Martin Luther King was...etc. And people say this test is hard??? Personally I'm add another section about American culture and a loyalty litmus test. Y'all can take this with a grain of salt but to a certain extent its serious. Unlike the past, immigrants are not assimilating culturally. Our society is becoming more and more fragmented.

Look at what has happened in Britain and France with their Islamic ghettos. The London slums produced the suicide terrorists who blew themselves up on the subway. Large numbers of Britihs Muslims, up to a third, believe the attacks are justified because of British and Western foreign policy, esp. Blair's sending of troops to Iraq. France is in contant danger of rioting in all their major cities by Islamic youths and other illegals from Africa and other Third World places. Large segments of immigrants in the US are insulated in their own sub-societies here without accepting American culture and lifestyles. With VERY LITTLE sarcasm, I'd suggest that any citizen should be able to pass at least 50 or 60% of the following questions....note this isn't asking a lot, only 50%.

American Sports

1. What does the NBA stand for?
2. What does NASCAR stand for?
3. What does the NFL stand for?
4. The sports are associated with the Super Bowl, the World Series, and the Daytona 500?
5. Name 3 teams that play in the ACC, and what the ACC stands for.
6. What league does your local MLB play in? Name the closest baseball stadium, basketball or football arena, or NASCAR speedway to your home.

American Food

5. What city is famous for its crabcakes?
6. What style of cooking is New Orleans famous for?
7. What food is Kansas City and Memphis famous for?
8. What type of bread is San Francisco famous for?
9. What state do Philly Cheesesteaks come from? (they need to know what Philly is and what state that is in, quite a challenge actually.....)

10. Using pictures, identify the diff. between New England and Manhattan clam chowder.

11. Are Sonic, Waffle House, and Bojangles more numerous north or south of the Mason-Dixon Line?

12. What Wisconsin city is famous for its beer?

American Legends/History

13. Name 1 of the heroes of the Alamo (hint: Antonio Lopez de Santa Ana ain't a right answer!!!!!!!!!!!)
14. What battleship has a memorial devoted to it at Pearl Harbor?
15. Who were Johnny Appleseed and Paul Bunyon?
16. Why was the cause behind the War of Northern Aggression? (purposely worded this way....also bonus points if they mention states rights)

American Music

17. What style of music is Louis Armstrong famous for?
18. Name 5 famous modern singers or bands from country music, classic rock bluegrass, folk, or R&B (pop, rap and rock are not legit, Latin music is DEFINITELY not legit...extra points for country and r and b)
19. What city is the home of country music?
20. Do you listen to the Dixie Chicks? (bonus point if you answer NO)
21. What show made Carrie Underwood, Kellie Pickler and Bucky Covington famous?

22. Identify in a recording, the following songs: The Star-Spangled Banner, America the Beautiful, My Country Tis of Thee, The Battle Hymn of the Republic, Dixie.

American Geography

23. Where is the Gateway Arch?
24. Name four of the resorts on the Las Vegas Strip
25. Name 2 theme parks in Florida
26. What is Cape Canaveral?
27. Name two of the towns on historic Route 66
28. Lancaster County in which state is famous for its Amish people?
29. What state is home of the Indianapolis Motor Speedway?
30. Where can you get better sweet tea? Pittsburgh or Charleston?
31. Where is the Preakness racetrack located?
32. Where is the Santa Monica pier?

REQUIRED QUESTION - LOYALTY TEST

If Team USA plays your home country in the Olympics who will you cheer for?

Will you be willing to take up arms on behalf of the United States against your home country? THESE TWO QUETSIONS I BELIEVE MUST>>>>>>>MUST>>>>>MUST>>>>>be asked of anyone trying to be a citizen.
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Old 02-26-2008, 10:54 PM
 
Location: California
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In my Government class, we were put to take the citizenship. 98% of us failed.

Southern Mexicans may not know a lot about baseball. But the Mexicans who live in northern mexico thrive on baseball, its like the soccer of southern Mexico. I guess thats why Mexico whooped USA last time they played

To tell you the truth, I have no idea who Louis Armstrong is, or what the hell the preakness track is located.
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Old 02-26-2008, 11:05 PM
 
Location: The Heart of Dixie
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In my Government class, we were put to take the citizenship. 98% of us failed.

Southern Mexicans may not know a lot about baseball. But the Mexicans who live in northern mexico thrive on baseball, its like the soccer of southern Mexico. I guess thats why Mexico whooped USA last time they played

To tell you the truth, I have no idea who Louis Armstrong is, or what the hell the preakness track is located.
Seriously??????? No offense but your school must have not had very studious kids!!!! Its very basic stuff any American should know.

Louis ARmstrong is a famous jazz musician from New Orleans and one of the most famous African American artists/musicians in our history.

The Preakness, that's more of a stretch. Its located in Baltimore, and its the site of the Preakness Stakes, which along with the Kentucky Derby and the Saratoga race makes up the Triple Crown.
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Old 02-26-2008, 11:07 PM
 
Location: California
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Seriously??????? No offense but your school must have not had very studious kids!!!! Its very basic stuff any American should know.

Louis ARmstrong is a famous jazz musician from New Orleans and one of the most famous African American artists/musicians in our history.

The Preakness, that's more of a stretch. Its located in Baltimore, and its the site of the Preakness Stakes, which along with the Kentucky Derby and the Saratoga race makes up the Triple Crown.
I failed as well-- but I did know what the 13 stripes on the flag meant-- unlike half the class . However, all the ADULTS failed as well on back to school night. Remember this is a 70% white suburban neighborhood
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Old 02-27-2008, 12:03 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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Seriously??????? No offense but your school must have not had very studious kids!!!! Its very basic stuff any American should know.

Louis ARmstrong is a famous jazz musician from New Orleans and one of the most famous African American artists/musicians in our history.

The Preakness, that's more of a stretch. Its located in Baltimore, and its the site of the Preakness Stakes, which along with the Kentucky Derby and the Saratoga race makes up the Triple Crown.

Um, ...

In the United States, the Triple Crown consists of:
  1. the Kentucky Derby, at Churchill Downs in Louisville, Kentucky;
  2. the Preakness Stakes, at Pimlico Race Course in Baltimore, Maryland;
  3. the Belmont Stakes, at Belmont Park in Elmont, New York.
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Old 02-27-2008, 01:22 AM
 
Location: Camberville
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If that's American culture then why would anyone want to come here? You captured some of the WORST aspects of the US. I mean seriously, NASCAR and country music? Vegas? American Idol? Manhattan Clam "chowder"?

PS- as part of a government project in high school, we gave some teachers, administrators, and local government officials the citizenship test. Not a single one of the government officials or school administrators passed.
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Old 02-27-2008, 01:53 AM
 
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If that's American culture then why would anyone want to come here? You captured some of the WORST aspects of the US. I mean seriously, NASCAR and country music? Vegas? American Idol? Manhattan Clam "chowder"?

PS- as part of a government project in high school, we gave some teachers, administrators, and local government officials the citizenship test. Not a single one of the government officials or school administrators passed.
I agree with your first paragraph..throw in sports with the mix and I don't know a thing and care less! What junk! YUCK! There should be some "culture" in culture.

As to the second paragraph, if any of these people had to study the simple questions to become a citizen then they would know the answers, it's not hard...anyone can memorize the answers....and they do ...even though they mean nothing to them.
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Old 02-27-2008, 06:08 AM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Terrapin2212:

Are you sure that you are of Asian heritage?

Although; in all fairness, in some of the Southern states, ethnic Chinese and Japanese people were counted as White. The children of Cheng and Eng Bunker, the famous Siamese Twins were listed as being of the White race (despite being 1/2 ethnic Chinese) according to the 1860 US Census. Apparently; many of Mt Airy, NC's present famous families can trace their heritage back to either Cheng or Eng.

Your syllabus would make my Confederate ancestors proud!
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Old 02-27-2008, 11:04 AM
 
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If that's American culture then why would anyone want to come here? You captured some of the WORST aspects of the US. I mean seriously, NASCAR and country music? Vegas? American Idol? Manhattan Clam "chowder"?
Tens of millions of Americans disagree with you.

These items are indeed aspects of American culture, regardless of your particular tastes. Whether they are considered "good" or "bad" by anyone in particular is irrelevant.
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Old 02-27-2008, 12:05 PM
 
Location: Bike to Surf!
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My dad is a legal citizen from Taiwan and got his citizenship when I was in middle school, I saw him studying him for the test, and the questions are easy as hell. Any 6th grader who pays any attention in history and social studies class can pass it. They asked things like what the capital of the US is, how many stars are on the flag, what the 13 stripes represent, who the first President was, who freed the slaves, who Martin Luther King was...etc. And people say this test is hard??? Personally I'm add another section about American culture and a loyalty litmus test. Y'all can take this with a grain of salt but to a certain extent its serious. Unlike the past, immigrants are not assimilating culturally. Our society is becoming more and more fragmented.
No one claims that the citizenship test is "hard." It's not meant as a screening process to keep all but the "smartest" 10% out, like college admissions. It is meant to ensure that immigrants--who have already gone through the complicated and arduous process to gain permanent residency--and then lived in the US for the requisite number of years--are aware of our political system and the basic values and principles our nation was founded upon, so that they can be responsible citizens entrusted with the rights and responsibilities entailed. Most citizens do not go through more than a 6th-grade-level civics class (usually a few months worth of lectures in their "social studies" classes.) and most do not retain much of that information.

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Look at what has happened in Britain and France with their Islamic ghettos. The London slums produced the suicide terrorists who blew themselves up on the subway. Large numbers of Britihs Muslims, up to a third, believe the attacks are justified because of British and Western foreign policy, esp. Blair's sending of troops to Iraq.
1. What does this have to do with an US citizenship test?
2. A number of terrorists were from more affluent sections of British society.
3. Do you have any evidence to back up your claims or are you just repeating someone else's talking points?

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France is in contant danger of rioting in all their major cities by Islamic youths and other illegals from Africa and other Third World places.
The French have been rioting at the drop of a bagette since their country was established.
1. Again, what do illegal French aliens from "Africa and other Third World places" have to do with the United States citizenship test?

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Large segments of immigrants in the US are insulated in their own sub-societies here without accepting American culture and lifestyles. With VERY LITTLE sarcasm, I'd suggest that any citizen should be able to pass at least 50 or 60% of the following questions....note this isn't asking a lot, only 50%.
4. What is the required "American Culture" or lifestyle? It is my understanding that all cultures, creeds, religions, races, and lifestyles are welcome in the United States. It's a little thing called "freedom" and included in that is "freedom of association", and "freedom of religion". Yes, even for Muslims.

The basis of our nation is--fortunately--not transient pop culture, but rather our constitution, bill of rights, political system, and major historical events (such as the declaration of independence of the 13 colonies, revolutionary war, freeing of the slaves, and the civil rights movement). While these may seem like simple things to remember, they are the most important aspects of America.

Lets take a look at the questions you would like citizens to be able to answer, rather than unimportant easy questions like, say: "What is your first amendement right?"

With absolutely no sarcasm, I believe your proposed citizenship test does not have the respect for our consitutionally-protected freedoms that a patriotic US citizen should have. The thought that there should be a "citizenship" test for all Americans which asks questions about sports teams, casinos, and race cars, is not an idea that a mature, responsible, and patriotic citizen of the United States would take seriously. This ridiculous suggestion is about as unpatriotic, unconstitutional, and anti-freedom as you can get.

Last edited by sponger42; 02-27-2008 at 12:06 PM.. Reason: Added "freedom of religion"
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