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Old 12-11-2016, 08:30 PM
 
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10. Cut off ALL assistance
This would effectively end the problem essentially immediately.

 
Old 12-11-2016, 08:33 PM
 
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This would effectively end the problem essentially immediately.
Simply said and cut off funds to Sanctuary Cities!


Americans are very tired of Illegals breaking the law and receiving US Tax Payers Hard earned Money!
 
Old 12-11-2016, 09:08 PM
 
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I'm going to break this down in simple terms so even you can understand this. A great many "illegal immigrants" have valid drivers licences and state IDs (many so-called illegals were previously legal residents). A great many US citizens do not speak English (ever heard of Puerto Rico?). We also have no legal requirement that people cary proof of citizenship. Do you propose that every man, woman or child stopped by police be detained until they can provide a birth certificate, passport, certificate of naturalization or green card? Just a little bit of thinking to tell a man of intelligence that this is nowhere near feasible.


We know who those people are smart guy.

We now know the illegals that have gotten drivers licenses. Millions of them in fact.

We know the dapa and daca people now.

WARRANTS FOR ALL OF THEM


THESE ARE NOT HARD AND FAST RULES
 
Old 12-11-2016, 09:11 PM
 
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I will also break this down in simple terms for you. Under lawful contact anyone can be asked for ID. No one is required to prove they are a citizen of this country just that they are here legally. Yes, green card holders are required by law to carry their green cards with them everywhere. That's what enforcing the laws of the books means.


I have no idea why you brought of language into this discussion. No one is suggesting that if you speak a foreign language that automatically makes you a suspect in the eyes of the law.
I did. Totality of the circumstances. It is a factor
 
Old 12-11-2016, 09:16 PM
 
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They clearly just want to be soft on crime . I have no idea why . Unless one is a criminal or has a criminal mindset why would you want to be so soft on crime?
What else would you expect from the left?
 
Old 12-11-2016, 09:17 PM
 
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ending birthright citizenship would require a constitutional amendment.

wrong
 
Old 12-11-2016, 09:19 PM
 
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Under lawful contact one can be asked for anything. One however is not required to answer or provide any ID. If the officer has a reasonable and articuable belief that a crime has been is being or is about to be committed he can request your name and you are required to provide it. That is it. A suspiciom that an individual is an illegal alien does not meet the reasonable standard.

I am reasonably sure you guys are not up to it but here is the court decision..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiibel...ourt_of_Nevada

The only people empowered to ask for immigration documents are immigration agents. Normal police have no such right.
Police get federal immigration powers. Simple.

What else do you have?
 
Old 12-11-2016, 09:23 PM
 
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The constitution is annoying to those that want a stronger police state. The Bill of Rights was explicitly written just in case the Federal government grew too oppressive. No, it wasn't necessarily written for "illegal immigrants", but to do what the OP wants to do, it'll be national stop and frisk on steroids.

If the Bill of Rights will be cast aside when it's convenient for police and politicians, lets start calling it the Bill of Privileges.
Please explain in detail how it is a stop and frisk on steroids?
 
Old 12-11-2016, 10:16 PM
 
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Police get federal immigration powers. Simple.

What else do you have?
Them you have to pay them for the added duties. There is no funding. Talk to Ryan. But no one else is willing to put up the money either.

And then when the Police arrest them...where do they go. ICE? Then you have to pay ICE agents and Immigration courts and holding facilities and jailers. Where do you get the money? Talk to Ryan...

You poor folk can't seem to get your minds around it. You have no popular support...you have no legislative support...you have no support anywhere.

And blocking a conclusion merely open the possibility for another onslaught. And you folk on this one.
 
Old 12-11-2016, 10:55 PM
 
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Them you have to pay them for the added duties. There is no funding. Talk to Ryan. But no one else is willing to put up the money either.

And then when the Police arrest them...where do they go. ICE? Then you have to pay ICE agents and Immigration courts and holding facilities and jailers. Where do you get the money? Talk to Ryan...

You poor folk can't seem to get your minds around it. You have no popular support...you have no legislative support...you have no support anywhere.

And blocking a conclusion merely open the possibility for another onslaught. And you folk on this one.
Not really. Its just like any other crime. And if feds put warrants out then all it is a cuff and transport to the jail.

Now that cannabis is legal and decriminalized it will be a trade off.

Again **** globalist RINO Ryan

Have to spend billions now to save trillions later
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