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Old 02-28-2008, 01:20 PM
 
Location: Missouri of course
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WELL FOLKS....THIS SHOULD OPEN SOME EYES FOR THE PEOPLE WHO SAY WE ARE SPENDING TOO MUCH OVERSEAS....LETS CLEAN UP OUR HOUSE FIRST...

What costs more per year than the the Iraq War?

I hope the following 14 reasons are forwarded over and over again until they are read so many times that the reader gets sick of reading them. I have included the URL's for verification of the following facts:

1. $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to illegal aliens each year. FAIR: : Immigration and Welfare (http://tinyurl.com/zob77 - broken link)

2. $2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens. Center for Immigration Studies

3. $2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for illegal aliens. Center for Immigration Studies

4. $12 Billiondollars a year is spent on primary and secondary school education for children here illegally and they cannot speak a word of English! http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.0.html (broken link)

5. $17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for the American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies. &nbs p;CNN.com - Transcripts

6. $3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal aliens. CNN.com - Transcripts

7. 30% percent of all Federal Prison inmates are illegal aliens. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSC (broken link) RIPTS/0604/01/ldt..01.html

8. $90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on illegal aliens for Welfare and Social Services by the American taxpayers. http://premium.cnn.com/TRANSCIPTS/0610/29/ldt.01.html (broken link)

9. $200 Billion Dollars a year in suppressed American wages are caused by the illegal aliens. CNN.com - Transcripts

10. The illegal aliens in the United States have a crime rate that's two-and-a-half times that of white non-illegal aliens.. In particular, their children, are going to make a huge additional crime problem in the US . CNN.com - Transcripts

11. During the year of 2005 there were 4 to 10 MILLION illegal aliens that crossed our Southern Border also, as many as 19,500 illegal aliens from Terrorist Countries. Millions of pounds of drugs, cocaine, meth, heroin and marijuana, crossed into the U. S from the Southern border. Homeland Security Report. http://tinyurl.com/t9sht (broken link)

12. The National Policy Institute, 'estimated that the total cost of mass deportation would be between $206 and $230 billion or an average cost of between $41 and $46 billion annually over a five year period.' http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute.o...eportation.pdf

13. In 2006 illegal aliens sent home $45 BILLION in remittances back to their countries of origin. Wooldridge - How Much Further Into This Nightmare?

14. 'The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration: Nearly One Million Sex Crimes Committed by Illegal Immigrants In The United States .' http://www.drdsk.com/articleshtml (broken link)

Total cost is a whooping ... $338.3 BILLION A YEAR!!!
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Old 02-28-2008, 01:22 PM
 
Location: southern california
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nobody can outspend DOD, not even Emelda Marcos.
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Old 02-28-2008, 01:25 PM
 
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WELL FOLKS....THIS SHOULD OPEN SOME EYES FOR THE PEOPLE WHO SAY WE ARE SPENDING TOO MUCH OVERSEAS....LETS CLEAN UP OUR HOUSE FIRST...

What costs more per year than the the Iraq War?

I hope the following 14 reasons are forwarded over and over again until they are read so many times that the reader gets sick of reading them. I have included the URL's for verification of the following facts:

1. $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to illegal aliens each year. FAIR: : Immigration and Welfare (http://tinyurl.com/zob77 - broken link)
Why are you trying to distort the facts? The link you provided says differently from what YOU try to pass off as fact.

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Each year, state governments spend an estimated $11 billion to $22 billion to provide welfare to immigrants.2
FAIR: : Immigration and Welfare

You see, they didn't say it was spent on illegal immigrants. If you lied about that one, i don't even want to go through the others and point out the other lies.
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Old 02-28-2008, 01:26 PM
 
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The point to me is that even ONE illegal is too much. I should not have to spend MY taxes on someone who is a lawbreaker and does not belong here in the first place.

And, there's MILLIONS of illegals! So, you can understand how I might feel, when I don't even want to pay for one.
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Old 02-28-2008, 01:29 PM
 
Location: Oxygen Ln. AZ
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Well if we spend that much on LEGAL immigrants, then how much is added for the illegals?
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Old 02-28-2008, 01:34 PM
 
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WELL FOLKS....THIS SHOULD OPEN SOME EYES FOR THE PEOPLE WHO SAY WE ARE SPENDING TOO MUCH OVERSEAS....LETS CLEAN UP OUR HOUSE FIRST...

What costs more per year than the the Iraq War?

I hope the following 14 reasons are forwarded over and over again until they are read so many times that the reader gets sick of reading them. I have included the URL's for verification of the following facts:


9. $200 Billion Dollars a year in suppressed American wages are caused by the illegal aliens. CNN.com - Transcripts
You conveniently left this out

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DOBBS: That economy, we know the estimates by the most authoritative and recent study put the suppressed wages at $200 billion a year, as a result of immigration, both legal and illegal. We know that the costs, the estimated costs run about $50 billion for services, and I can't tell you, Mr. Chairman, how many people have said to me, typically, open borders activists, in support of illegal aliens, but we provide $7 billion in Social Security taxes every year, as if that is some sort of reasonable offset.
CNN.com - Transcripts

Btw, where are the studies that made these findings? Or just because Lou mentioned it on his show, then it must be through.
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Old 02-28-2008, 01:52 PM
 
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WELL FOLKS....THIS SHOULD OPEN SOME EYES FOR THE PEOPLE WHO SAY WE ARE SPENDING TOO MUCH OVERSEAS....LETS CLEAN UP OUR HOUSE FIRST...

What costs more per year than the the Iraq War?

I hope the following 14 reasons are forwarded over and over again until they are read so many times that the reader gets sick of reading them. I have included the URL's for verification of the following facts:

2. $2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens. Center for Immigration Studies

3. $2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for illegal aliens. Center for Immigration Studies

4. $12 Billiondollars a year is spent on primary and secondary school education for children here illegally and they cannot speak a word of English! http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.0.html (broken link)

5. $17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for the American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies. &nbs p;CNN.com - Transcripts

6. $3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal aliens. CNN.com - Transcripts

7. 30% percent of all Federal Prison inmates are illegal aliens. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSC (broken link) RIPTS/0604/01/ldt..01.html
5. "Anchor Babies" are american citizens, so they have a right to an education

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At the same time, America's criminal justice system is bulging with these citizens of other countries. According to the Federal Bureau of Prisons, 30 percent of federal prisoners are not U.S. citizens. At a cost of $63 a day, taxpayers spend more than $3 million every day to house non-U.S. citizen dollars in our federal prisons. Most are thought to be illegal aliens.
There is no fact to prove they are illegal aliens, Lou dobbs was assuming

Btw, doj estimates that only 6.3 percent of federal prisoners are non- citizens. So tell me how lou dobbs came up with the 30 percent figure?

Lies, Conservatives and Statistics: Crime Waves, Lie Waves

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Old 02-28-2008, 02:51 PM
 
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5. $17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for the American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies. &nbs p;CNN.com - Transcripts

The source isn't CNN---it is cited by the person and credited to FAIR via CNN . Now, the problem is that FAIR doesn't sit any source and just give the number out on the website.


Of course, a little research will show that this site is far better(although still not good enough) sources.
Family Security Matters (broken link)
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ARTICLE------------
However, even this figure could be low. The Federation for Immigration Reform (FAIR) estimates there are between 287,000 and 363,000 children born to illegal aliens each year. These numbers are based on the crude birth rate of the total foreign-born population (33 births per 1,000) and official estimates of the size of the illegal alien population¯between 8.7 and 11 million.
Example let's estimate 11 million illegal aliens-------now apply the 'foreign born population(that would include both legal and illegal) numbers to it.

11,000,000/1000 = 11,000

11000 * 33 ==== 363,000 (the number given in the quote)








PROBLEM WITH FAMILY SECURITY WEBSITE ALSO

Here is their quote

Family Security Matters (broken link)

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Illegal alien mothers aren’t the only ones benefiting. There are reports that some pregnant Mexicans are entering the U.S. for the sole purpose of giving birth and having the costs paid for by Americans. A survey conducted by the University of California found that of new Hispanic mothers in California border hospitals, 15 percent had crossed the border specifically to give birth.
When you click on the university thing, you go this website.
Consequences of misinterpreting the 14th Amendment to the United States Constitution - Fourteenth Amendment - anchor babies and birthright citizenship - interpretations and misinterpretations - US Constitution

However, this site doesn't give any report once you reach the site. Here is how they write it.

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In 1994, California paid for 74,987 deliveries to illegal alien mothers, at a total cost of $215.2 million (an average of $2,842 per delivery). Illegal alien mothers accounted for 36 percent of all Medi-Cal funded births in California that year.1 A survey conducted under the auspices of the University of California, found that of new Hispanic mothers in California border hospitals, 15 percent had crossed the border specifically to give birth. Two-thirds of births in Los Angeles County hospitals are to illegal alien mothers who are in the U.S. in violation of our existing immigration laws.
There is no source for that point. Which is just too stupid.
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Old 02-28-2008, 04:30 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Why are you trying to distort the facts? The link you provided says differently from what YOU try to pass off as fact.



FAIR: : Immigration and Welfare

You see, they didn't say it was spent on illegal immigrants. If you lied about that one, i don't even want to go through the others and point out the other lies.
That's RICH!!! You pro-illegal sycophants are ALWAYS lumping together legal and illegal immigrants EVERY CHANCE YOU GET in order to make it look like illegals are some kind of benefit to the American economy, but the FIRST TIME it's done against you out come the charges of LYING and DISTORTING THE FACTS.

Do you have ANY clue as to how hypocritical you are??
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Old 02-28-2008, 05:04 PM
 
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No argument here. Illegals are costing each and everyone of us legal citizens through the nose. Can you imagine how much better OUR lives would be if that money was left in our pockets to support our families???? Not to mention the reduction of crime and saving our hospitals that are closing due to the burden of treating uninsured illegals.
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