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Old 03-01-2008, 09:49 PM
 
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Last time I looked no non citizen was covered by the constitution.They in fact are all criminals if they are breaking the laws to include fraud.Let a citizen commit fraud like many of the illegals do and they will be sent to jail ;why should illegals get a free pass.Many people waiting to legally immigrate are being puinished by illegals.
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Old 03-02-2008, 07:24 AM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Yup, doesn't surprise me ONE bit.
While I do think the border needs to be controlled, it's also pretty clear to me that a lot of the anger about illegal immigration (including much of what is written here) is really pretty thinly disguised racism directed at Mexico and Hispanics in general.

Ken
You are correct that most of the anger is directed towards Mexican nationals-------simply because they are by far the largest source of illegal immigrants with Central America supplying most of the remainder.

Most of us here are (including myself) not racist against Mestizos as a group-----besides, some Mexicans are Black, Asian or White to boot.
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Old 03-02-2008, 07:27 AM
 
Location: Missouri of course
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You are correct that most of the anger is directed towards Mexican nationals-------simply because they are by far the largest source of illegal immigrants with Central America supplying most of the remainder.

Most of us here are (including myself) not racist against Mestizos as a group-----besides, some Mexicans are Black, Asian or White to boot.
It is not just because they are the majority of illegals though. It is also because they are the most devious and protest right out in the open and DEMAND rights they have no right to, all while waving their precious Mexican flags. They asked for this hatred against them and they got what they wanted.
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Old 03-02-2008, 07:32 AM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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It is not just because they are the majority of illegals though. It is also because they are the most devious and protest right out in the open and DEMAND rights they have no right to, all while waving their precious Mexican flags. They asked for this hatred against them and they got what they wanted.
Flying the Mexican flag during those protests almost 2 years ago was boneheaded------at best.

And; the above action many have endangered any brown skinned person by 'encouraging' comparably stupid White Supremacists to hassle the former.

When I say 'brown people'; I am also referring to many legally Anglo/White folks as well as 'Barack Obama' looking people of color------not just Americans of Mestizo background.
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Old 03-02-2008, 07:38 AM
 
Location: Missouri of course
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Flying the Mexican flag during those protests almost 2 years ago was boneheaded------at best.

And; the above action many have endangered any brown skinned person by 'encouraging' comparably stupid White Supremacists to hassle the former.

When I say 'brown people'; I am also referring to many legally Anglo/White folks as well as 'Barack Obama' looking people of color------not just Americans of Mestizo background.
That is exactly what I am afraid of. The Mexicans themselves brought about the racial hatred and bigotry that is all over now-a-days. It is a shame but it is their fault and they have no one to blame but themselves. I hate the thought that friends and family of mine could get caught in the middle of this just because of the color of their skin, though they are American citizens and also are against the illegal invasion of the country, though some of them ate of Mexican descent.
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Old 03-02-2008, 09:42 AM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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That is exactly what I am afraid of. The Mexicans themselves brought about the racial hatred and bigotry that is all over now-a-days. It is a shame but it is their fault and they have no one to blame but themselves.
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Old 03-02-2008, 09:47 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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If you want to know about the SPLC, just google "The Church of Morris Dees".

What a SCAM ARTIST!!!
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Old 03-02-2008, 09:48 AM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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That is exactly what I am afraid of. The Mexicans themselves brought about the racial hatred and bigotry that is all over now-a-days. It is a shame but it is their fault and they have no one to blame but themselves.
No, the ONLY ones to blame for racial hatred and bigotry are those that espouse racial hatred and bigotry. More of the same "I'm not to blame for what I did BS argument that folks use to try an excuse their own evil actions.

"It's not my fault I raped her, she shouldn't have worn such a sexy outfit"

"It's not my fault I robbed that 7-11, I needed money for my drug addiction"

"It's not my fault I shot those witnesses - they shouldn't have been there at the time they were".

"It's not my fault I blackened my wife's eyes - she shouldn't have made me mad".

"It's not my fault I shook my 4-month-old baby boy to death - he shouldn't have kept crying".

etc, etc, etc...

Deflecting blame - often to the victims themselves is THE time-tested method used for excusing whatever behavior we want to.

Doesn't make it right.

Ken

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Old 03-02-2008, 10:06 AM
 
Location: San Diego North County
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An "in-depth report" by the SPLC? We're supposed to take this organization seriously? They brand any group or individuals who come out against illegal immigration as racist. If Mother Teresa had remarked that illegal immigrants need to follow the letter of the law, they would have branded her a white supremicist, never mind that she is from India.

The SPLC despises all things pro-American. The fact that they continue to kiss up to groups such as La Raza and M.E.C.h.A merely serves to underline that fact.

I agree with nvxplorer. I don't need FAIR or any other organization to dictate to me my beliefs regarding illegal immigration. I am more than intelligent enough to research the issue and draw my own conclusions.

Your continued attempts to legitimize that which is illegimate would be laughable if it weren't so pitiful.
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Old 03-02-2008, 10:10 AM
 
Location: Lake Norman, North Carolina
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Yup, doesn't surprise me ONE bit.
While I do think the border needs to be controlled, it's also pretty clear to me that a lot of the anger about illegal immigration (including much of what is written here) is really pretty thinly disguised racism directed at Mexico and Hispanics in general.

Ken
Oh my! We're being invaded by 20 million illegals, the majority of whom are from Mexico, and here we have yet another one that just doesn't "get it".
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