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Old 03-03-2008, 02:07 AM
 
Location: Tennessee/Michigan
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A man in Newton has been charged with felony child abuse after a little boy who was left in his care suffered fatal injuries.

The Newton Police Department charged Armando Martinez who is an illegal immigrant from El Salvador.

Newton Baby Beaten to Death | WBTV | Home (broken link)
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Old 03-03-2008, 08:09 AM
 
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When Are People Going To Wake Up!! This Is Sickening. What Kind Of "thing" Could Beat A Child To Death. Notice It Is "another Illegal" When Do We Say "enough" How Many More Innocent Lives Have To Be Lost???
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Old 03-03-2008, 08:37 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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When Are People Going To Wake Up!! This Is Sickening. What Kind Of "thing" Could Beat A Child To Death. Notice It Is "another Illegal" When Do We Say "enough" How Many More Innocent Lives Have To Be Lost???
Could you give the CAPS key a rest, man?
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Old 03-03-2008, 12:01 PM
 
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It is horrible when any child is killed by anyone. It happens every day in some part of the country. It only makes news on here because of it being done by an Illegal. Logic posted when are people going to wake up, I guess only when an illegal is accused it seems worse than if anyone else commits the crime.
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Old 03-03-2008, 12:28 PM
 
Location: Small patch of terra firma
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It is horrible when any child is killed by anyone. It happens every day in some part of the country. It only makes news on here because of it being done by an Illegal. Logic posted when are people going to wake up, I guess only when an illegal is accused it seems worse than if anyone else commits the crime.
When a lady in Texas drowned her children, there was so much discussion about Post Partum Stress (I wont debate it) and people standing by her and finding justification for the deaths. But your right Sassy, if an illegal commits a crime, there is only rage that a senseless crime occurred, which ought to occur, senseless crimes are a tragedy and deserve outrage.

But treating similar crimes differently based on the citizenship status of the person accused is just completely idiotic in my opinion. Case in point, the 4 dead children from the bus accident is a tragedy. However an elderly American kills 10 and injures 70 in Santa Monica a few years ago and receives no prison time. And again, justification for the accident is looked at.

So really, the benefit of being an American is that if you commit a horrible crime, at least other Americans will find justification and reasoning for your actions. If you are illegal, you don’t get the same benefit. Wow, the importance of your life is based on the citizenship of the person who takes it from you.
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Old 03-03-2008, 12:36 PM
 
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But treating similar crimes differently based on the citizenship status of the person accused is just completely idiotic in my opinion.
People are robbed on the street. People are also robbed in their homes. Those criminals who break into homes are treated differently than those whose crimes occur on the street. Not idiotic at all.

After a number of burglary/robberies occur, people begin to better secure their homes. This is the reason reports such as this are important. It reminds us that we need to lock the country's doors.
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Old 03-03-2008, 12:36 PM
 
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It is horrible when any child is killed by anyone. It happens every day in some part of the country. It only makes news on here because of it being done by an Illegal. Logic posted when are people going to wake up, I guess only when an illegal is accused it seems worse than if anyone else commits the crime.
The point is they are here illegally. They are not supposed to be here. If they were not here they would not be killing HERE. Comprendo?
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Old 03-03-2008, 12:39 PM
 
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People are robbed on the street. People are also robbed in their homes. Those criminals who break into homes are treated differently than those whose crimes occur on the street. Not idiotic at all.

After a number of burlary/robberies occur, people begin to better secure their homes. This is the reason reports such as this are important. It reminds us that we need to lock the country's doors.
And your analogy works how? Do you feel that if the robber/criminal is an American then we should find reasoning for their actions but if they are illegal we donít?
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Old 03-03-2008, 12:41 PM
 
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The point is they are here illegally. They are not supposed to be here. If they were not here they would not be killing HERE. Comprendo?
So because they are not supposed to be here, then let the rage continue, but if an American does it, just find reasoning and justification for their actions and not feel compassion for the victim because their assailant wasnít an illegal?
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Old 03-03-2008, 12:44 PM
 
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And your analogy works how? Do you feel that if the robber/criminal is an American then we should find reasoning for their actions but if they are illegal we donít?
Apparently, the analogy is lost on your inability to see anything outside the American/foreign national paradigm.

My point was clear as a bell. Your response is nonsensical. Who said anything about rationalizing behavior? Not me.
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