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Old 03-14-2017, 07:54 AM
 
Location: Richland, Washington
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Yes, English should be a requirement.
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Old 03-14-2017, 08:39 AM
 
Location: North Texas
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Yes, they do. There are over a hundred different sign languges around the world. Here in the U.S. the calls for English only seem to forget that there is American Sign Language, and it is not foreign.

Here's the sucky thing about sign language...

Hearing people from the US and the UK speak the same language: English.

Deaf people from the US and the UK who communicate via sign language do NOT speak the same language!

ASL & BSL are VERY different!
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Old 03-14-2017, 06:36 PM
 
Location: Metro Washington DC
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Here's the sucky thing about sign language...

Hearing people from the US and the UK speak the same language: English.

Deaf people from the US and the UK who communicate via sign language do NOT speak the same language!

ASL & BSL are VERY different!
The English spoken in the UK is not the same as the one spoken in the US. If you say that they're similar enough to be understood by either side, do note that it is the same with ASL and BSL.
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Old 03-15-2017, 12:49 AM
 
Location: San Francisco Bay Area
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Wanna read something funny? English is the official language of California (see Proposition 63 for clarification).
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Old 03-15-2017, 12:54 AM
 
Location: San Francisco Bay Area
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Since it takes time to become a naturalized citizen, and there is a test involved anyway, why can't there be an English test also?

It takes much more effort for an adult to learn a new language, but if an immigrant wants so badly to be an American citizen with all the benefits that go along with that treasured status, then they should be encouraged and motivated to learn passable English.
And all this time, I thought English was required for the citizenship test. I know at one time (from friends who became naturalized citizens), it was a requirement.

Plan on seeing Spanish become the official language in the future. After all, they plan on becoming the majority population (and it's happening fast).
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Old 03-15-2017, 01:02 AM
 
Location: Prepperland
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One language = one nation united.

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Reference :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esperanto

“The place where I was born and spent my childhood gave direction to all my future struggles. In Bialystok the inhabitants were divided into four distinct elements: Russians, Poles, Germans and Jews; each of these spoke their own language and looked on all the others as enemies.”
- - - L. L. Zamenhof, in a letter to N. Borovko, ca. 1895
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Old 03-15-2017, 06:37 AM
 
Location: Metro Washington DC
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And all this time, I thought English was required for the citizenship test. I know at one time (from friends who became naturalized citizens), it was a requirement.

Plan on seeing Spanish become the official language in the future. After all, they plan on becoming the majority population (and it's happening fast).
There is an English test, but it's not real hard to pass it.
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Old 03-15-2017, 06:46 AM
 
Location: Former land of plenty
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Wanna read something funny? English is the official language of California (see Proposition 63 for clarification).
We need language police.
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Old 03-15-2017, 07:22 AM
 
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I did a year of graduate study in Germany. I "knew" the language before arriving but my skills were rough at best. I did two 1-month long immersion courses back to back before commencing university classes. 5 hours per day.

Admittedly, I have not studied what entails ESL these days. But perhaps every newcomer should do a year of English immersion before starting regular school?
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Old 03-15-2017, 10:08 AM
 
Location: Kūkiʻo, HI & Manhattan Beach, CA
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Wanna read something funny? English is the official language of California (see Proposition 63 for clarification).
What's even funnier is Gutierrez v. Southeast Judicial Dist. Mun. Ct.. 838 F.2d 1031 (9th Cir . 1988), which showed that California's Proposition 63 (1986) did not mean "English-only."
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