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Basically, these left-wing mayors have lost their minds. They are inviting terrorism and putting their cities in great danger by not vetting illegals and not allowing them to follow a proper process of citizenship. Let's see if they call conservatives mean-spirited after their cities experience an attack seeing innocent lives lost.
Basically, these left-wing mayors have lost their minds. They are inviting terrorism and putting their cities in great danger by not vetting illegals and not allowing them to follow a proper process of citizenship. Let's see if they call conservatives mean-spirited after their cities experience an attack seeing innocent lives lost.
Yes and the most disgusting part is that they all claim to be doing it in the name of 'public safety'.
Working with ICE in regards to known criminals is quite a bit different from being a "deportation force .
What would you consider a "serious crime "?
Should we just wait until an illegal kills someone to deport them ?
Right! I can't believe there's even a controversy over this. I'm very surprised and disappointed that so many people want the illegals here and will fight for them.
I've been anti-illegal for many years, but that's because I'm from Southern California, basically on the 'front lines' of illegal immigration. Ah... the things I've seen :-(
As for your question: What would I consider a serious crime? Illegally crossing the border is itself a crime, which leads to many more illegal acts. But again, I'm very harsh on this subject.
Some may assume that all immigrants who are in the United States without legal status must have committed improper entry. This simply isn't the case. Many foreign nationals legally enter the country on a valid work or travel visa, but fail to exit before their visa expires for a variety of reasons.
But mere unlawful presence in the country is not a crime. It is a violation of federal immigration law to remain in the country without legal authorization, but this violation is punishable by civil penalties, not criminal. Chief among these civil penalties is deportation or removal, where an unlawful resident may be detained and removed from the country. Unlawful presence can also have negative consequences for a resident who may seek to gain re-entry into the United States, or permanent residency.
- See more at: http://blogs.findlaw.com/blotter/2014/07/is-illegal-immigration-a-crime-improper-entry-v-unlawful-presence.html#sthash.TI4PkUOI.dpuf"
Overstay is not unlawful entry. Overstayers can adjust status because of that.
Sounds like typical lawyer double speak.
""Unlawful Presence Is Not a Crime"
"It is a violation of federal immigration law to remain in the country without legal authorization, but this violation is punishable by civil penalties,"
How can you be "punished by civil penalties" for NOT committing a crime?
"a violation of federal immigration law " IS BREAKING THE LAW.
"Civil penalties" ARE punishment for committing a crime.
Sessions needs to quit talking about it, and do it.
I agree. I think the Governors and the Mayors making these outlandish statements about protecting the illegals in their State/City in public should be arrested and charged with aiding and abetting, along with whatever else applies to their position as leaders who are enlisting others to aid and abet who have to follow the orders given by the Governor/Mayor.
I think if that happened, we'd see some changes real quick.
I agree. I think the Governors and the Mayors making these outlandish statements about protecting the illegals in their State/City in public should be arrested and charged with aiding and abetting, along with whatever else applies to their position as leaders who are enlisting others to aid and abet who have to follow the orders given by the Governor/Mayor.
I think if that happened, we'd see some changes real quick.
It's easy to talk tough, but it requires a lot more courage to take action. These mayors and sheriffs know that it's probably all just talk.
They still broke the law and INS can "arrest" them and deported them as they should be.
First off INS hasn't existed for quite some time, uscis is the agency. Secondly yes absolutely they can, but they aren't criminals per se, it's just a civil violation with a penalty (removal and ban from entry). Those who entered lawfully and have a qualifying US citizen relative can attempt relief by adjustment of status as it's not a felony or misdemeanor to overstay
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Originally Posted by Quick Enough
Sounds like typical lawyer double speak.
""Unlawful Presence Is Not a Crime"
"It is a violation of federal immigration law to remain in the country without legal authorization, but this violation is punishable by civil penalties,"
How can you be "punished by civil penalties" for NOT committing a crime?
"a violation of federal immigration law " IS BREAKING THE LAW.
"Civil penalties" ARE punishment for committing a crime.
Look up Arizona vs Supreme Court. They ruled it's not considered a crime.
"Unlawful presence is not a crime. It is a civil violation."
The 2012 Supreme Court case Arizona vs. United States. The majority opinion found that "as a general rule, it is not a crime for a removable alien to remain present in the United States."
I'm not saying that there is no punishment or that they're not in violation of federal law, simply that by US law overstay isn't criminal. Absolutely deportation is possible
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Easy way to resolve the problem... Just prosecute and imprison the mayors, town councils, etc. They're violating Federal Law. 5-10 year prison term PER each illegal alien:
Encouraging/Inducing -- Subsection 1324(a)(1)(A)(iv) makes it an offense for any person who -- encourages or induces an alien to come to, enter, or reside in the United States, knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that such coming to, entry, or residence is or will be in violation of law.
Conspiracy/Aiding or Abetting -- Subsection 1324(a)(1)(A)(v) expressly makes it an offense to engage in a conspiracy to commit or aid or abet the commission of the foregoing offenses.
...With regard to violations of 8 U.S.C. § 1324(a)(1)(ii)-(iv) and (v)(ii), domestic transportation, harboring, encouraging/inducing, or aiding/abetting, the basic statutory maximum term of imprisonment is 5 years, unless the offense was committed for commercial advantage or private financial gain, in which case the maximum term of imprisonment is 10 years.
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