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Old 04-10-2017, 10:35 AM
 
Location: Northwest Peninsula
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I believe years ago when a immigrant come to the US seeking citizenship they had to be sponsored by either an individual or a Charitable origination like a church. The immigrant couldn't get any public funded benefits for like five years or so. Any needs that the immigrant couldn't handle had to be paid for by the sponsor.

What is wrong with that system?
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Old 04-10-2017, 10:38 AM
 
Location: Northwest Peninsula
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Completely agree. Something needs to be legislated
AND. No more sanctuary anything. Except church
Why do say the church should be exempt from the law? I think if a church violates the law they should lose their tax status.
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Old 04-10-2017, 10:42 AM
 
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The SCOTUS could still say the 14th was for freed slaves and their kids ONLY. NOT US born kids of illegal aliens.
They could.

And all the illegal aliens could have a pang of conscience and get up and leave.

Both are equally probable

I would not hold my breath.
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Old 04-10-2017, 10:57 AM
 
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I believe years ago when a immigrant come to the US seeking citizenship they had to be sponsored by either an individual or a Charitable origination like a church. The immigrant couldn't get any public funded benefits for like five years or so. Any needs that the immigrant couldn't handle had to be paid for by the sponsor.

What is wrong with that system?
Legally they still do not qualify. Sponsors are asked for On forms. However instead of rejecting them it's up to the government to sue the sponsor for violating their i-864. It very rarely happens. However these benefits do not include WIC, SNAP etc. just welfare. Even Medicaid is usually brushed under the rug
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Old 04-10-2017, 01:22 PM
 
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They could.

And all the illegal aliens could have a pang of conscience and get up and leave.

Both are equally probable

I would not hold my breath.
MOST illegals WILL leave if "starved out" and, at risk of being arrested for "just" being here illegally. A few will try to commit crimes to survive but; are at serious risk of being killed since so many Americans "carry".
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Old 04-10-2017, 01:26 PM
 
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MOST illegals WILL leave if "starved out" and, at risk of being arrested for "just" being here illegally. A few will try to commit crimes to survive but; are at serious risk of being killed since so many Americans "carry".
Post is nonsense. There is no substantial threat that an employment crack down is imminent. And almost half are already off the books. So mostly you force them to the gray market which is actually a bad thing.
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Old 04-10-2017, 01:41 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Past 30 years testify laws will not be changed. And longer term illegals will not be easily deported. Fact of life.
Many are being deported when others are targeted as by catch. I'm ok with that. You get caught hanging out with a felon you will be deported too.
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Old 04-10-2017, 02:35 PM
 
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Post is nonsense. There is no substantial threat that an employment crack down is imminent. And almost half are already off the books. So mostly you force them to the gray market which is actually a bad thing.
I will believe in the crackdown when employers are forced to use e verify
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Old 04-10-2017, 05:33 PM
 
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Many are being deported when others are targeted as by catch. I'm ok with that. You get caught hanging out with a felon you will be deported too.
No Felons. And simply detaining the long term in no way leads to deportation. That will take at least 3 year in the immigration courts. As will in a very few months they will fill all the detention facilities and have to start prioritizing and releasing people.

Whole thing is absurd. There has been no significant change in resources and it does not appear that there is gong to be any. So lots of noise - no action.
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Old 04-10-2017, 05:36 PM
 
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Completely agree. Something needs to be legislated
AND. No more sanctuary anything. Except church
Not even the churches. LOADS of them are sanctuaries for illegals too.
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