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Old 04-11-2017, 02:01 PM
 
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Lol, and wingnuts said they didn't want to turn the border into the Hunger Games

 
Old 04-11-2017, 02:15 PM
 
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Arrest them running across the border and bus them back.
Firmly enforce the immigration laws in place on any person here during any law infraction. Pulled over for a broken taillight, loitering in front of a deli, lane changing without a blinker, etc.
 
Old 04-11-2017, 03:05 PM
 
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How about a reality show following 20 illegals cross the border thru the desert like the amazing race...winner gets a work visa lol
That depends. If talking 20 Mexican illegals; it may be tough to even find 20 Mexican citizens who'd wanna bother trying to cross in 2017 since for every Mexico who comes here, 1 now goes back home. Word is more and more of at least Hispanic illegals out of 100 are from Guatemala and so on.
 
Old 04-11-2017, 03:32 PM
 
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They don't seem to stop coming over. I got to thinking, what if one day, one of our leaders, who supported the Americans and was tired of having our standard of living degraded by illegals, did something pretty severe? Say we authorized lethal force against them (other countries do it)? Do you think the populace would support it or oppose it?

For a long time, I was against it, but now, after seeing my own future go up in smoke thanks to out of control immigration (legal or otherwise), I now SUPPORT it. (Yes, against women and children too. You have to draw line somewhere or else you won't have a country anymore.)
The ACLU would be up in arms opposing it.
 
Old 04-11-2017, 05:02 PM
 
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The ACLU would be up in arms opposing it.
It wouldn't only be the ACLU. Almost everyone would be, except the people who think the national symbol of the US is a trucker's hat and not the bald eagle
 
Old 04-11-2017, 05:29 PM
 
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No it would not go away instantly. Many are coming to drop anchor babies to suck the public assistance teat, so they don't need jobs. Jobs for them have been disappearing as more technologic advances are made.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.853b23877fda

They fill Section 8 housing while citizens wait by way of their anchors: http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/...-housing_N.htm

They file tax forms to get the child tax credits for their anchors: About 6.1 Million Illegals Filed Taxes in US

Most Illegal Immigrant Families Collect Welfare - Judicial Watch

Do you think these people came to work?

Jamielslaw---- Deport Illegal Alien Gangs 02/15 by Jamiels Law | Politics Podcasts

Examples of Serious Crimes By Illegal Aliens

When these people enter the US illegally, we do not know who they are or where they come from. We must secure our border since these people refuse to follow our laws, Mexico even encourages a certain segment of their population to come here by producing a brochure on the subject to keep those American dollars coming into Mexico: http://www.nytimes.com/2005/01/06/wo...n-us.html?_r=0

Many employers do e-verify and there have been enhancements made, but 50% of those working have stolen US citizen identities in order to get jobs they have no right to have. Then, the "day workers" that get a handful of cash would also have to be addressed.

Secure the border as planned using wall, fencing, natural barriers, electronic surveillance and increased border patrol agents. At a cost of $13 billion plus per year to carry these illegal aliens and their anchors, that security will pay for itself overtime. I also support putting a tariff on outgoing funds, billions pouring out of the country sent by illegal aliens to their "home" where we need to send them.

If we correctly interpret the 14th Amendment and stop this coming to the US to drop anchors, and we pay to deliver and raise them, that would stop a lot from coming when combined with e-verify and speeding up the process of deportation. It would also greatly benefit the system if we made public agencies mandated reporters as in they know someone is illegally present, they would be required by law to report it to ICE rather than pander to them.

Do I think we should kill them, no, just put them out and secure the border. Gang members, whatever it takes including euthanizing them, but this applies to citizens and illegal aliens in my mind.
I live in a metro area with a massive illegal alien problem. Hispanics are now the majority in our schools, and a good many of them required or require ESL support. It's expensive. What I can tell you is that at least in this state, coming here from Mexico just to have a baby would not support a household. Baby would be eligible for Medicaid, but healthy people don't use much healthcare anyway. Mom would get the food on WIC while pregnant or nursing, but that's some cheese, canned tuna, eggs, cereal and milk, stuff like that, and for a limited time.
Baby would be eligible for food stamps, currently about $180.00 per month ( about $6 per day ). Baby might qualify the family for TANF ( temporary assistance for needy families ) which is a couple hundred bucks a month. The section 8 list here has been closed for a decade. Anyway, nobody is supporting a small family on those benefits. SOMEBODY in that household is working.
 
Old 04-11-2017, 09:28 PM
 
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They don't seem to stop coming over. I got to thinking, what if one day, one of our leaders, who supported the Americans and was tired of having our standard of living degraded by illegals, did something pretty severe? Say we authorized lethal force against them (other countries do it)? Do you think the populace would support it or oppose it?

For a long time, I was against it, but now, after seeing my own future go up in smoke thanks to out of control immigration (legal or otherwise), I now SUPPORT it. (Yes, against women and children too. You have to draw line somewhere or else you won't have a country anymore.)
Yes, that's why your future sucks, an undocumented, uneducated person who doesnt speak the language was better qualified for a job than you were, yea that sounds about right.
 
Old 04-11-2017, 09:50 PM
 
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Yes, that's why your future sucks, an undocumented, uneducated person who doesnt speak the language was better qualified for a job than you were, yea that sounds about right.
No. The illegal alien (not "undocumented") works for a lot less money. Since they work for a lot less money, they live in flophouses and as a result, they have destroyed many working and middle class neighborhoods.
 
Old 04-11-2017, 10:53 PM
 
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How about a reality show following 20 illegals cross the border thru the desert like the amazing race...winner gets a work visa lol
It existed.

https://youtu.be/CfF0GHBokFU
 
Old 04-12-2017, 12:47 AM
 
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Yes, that's why your future sucks, an undocumented, uneducated person who doesnt speak the language was better qualified for a job than you were, yea that sounds about right.
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No. The illegal alien (not "undocumented") works for a lot less money. Since they work for a lot less money, they live in flophouses and as a result, they have destroyed many working and middle class neighborhoods.
Agreed with BOS2IAD ^^^
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