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Old 04-14-2017, 09:53 PM
 
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No need to divide the family as she is free to take them home with her. She knew from day one that if she got caught she would be out so no sorry from me!

We knew what was waiting if we wouldn't be in compliance with our visa so we did everything as we needed to do.
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Old 04-14-2017, 10:20 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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Where did it say she committed a felony? I don't support felons. From reading the article I did not recall seeing any criminal conviction. I do stand FIRMLY with illegals who don't commit crimes. We are a great nation, let us help those that are here already and enforce and tighten our laws.

I know most of you here agree with me deep down.
It does not matter whether she committed a felony or not. She was still here illegally.

Letting them stay just compounds the problem by encouraging more people to enter illegally.

No, most of us do not agree with you. That includes my daughter in law from Mexico who came here legally, including paying an attorney to make sure everything was done properly.

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Overstay is not a criminal offense as of present
It does not matter whether it is criminal. It is still illegal, even if the penalty is civil, not criminal.
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Old 04-14-2017, 10:48 PM
 
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It does not matter whether she committed a felony or not. She was still here illegally.

Letting them stay just compounds the problem by encouraging more people to enter illegally.

No, most of us do not agree with you. That includes my daughter in law from Mexico who came here legally, including paying an attorney to make sure everything was done properly.



It does not matter whether it is criminal. It is still illegal, even if the penalty is civil, not criminal.
To many it does matter as there is indeed a difference. There are no criminal charges just deportation, one would have an easier time getting back in after an overstay rather than entering illegally
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Old 04-15-2017, 12:13 AM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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To many it does matter as there is indeed a difference. There are no criminal charges just deportation, one would have an easier time getting back in after an overstay rather than entering illegally
That may be true, but the person is still here illegally. The person who overstays a visa and then has children here is still making anchor babies, too.
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Old 04-15-2017, 07:26 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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The common shared sentiment is deport illegals, regardless of history or status. What is basis (and purpose) for this statement?
The answer is in your post. They're here ILLEGALLY. Deport them all. Now.
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Old 04-15-2017, 07:30 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Overstay is not a criminal offense as of present
It's ILLEGAL. Period. Deport them. Now.
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Old 04-15-2017, 07:33 AM
 
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Take the kids with you back to Mexico. Jesus Christ people Mexico is not that bad. Especially if she has managed to learn English during her time here with her "4 US born children." She will now have marketable skills. Her and the baby daddy (wherever he is) can make a go for it in Mexico as well and they can probably have a very nice middle class life.

When the kids are older they will have the benefit of being able to go to the US for school, and live in the US permanently if they like.


I mean, sure, the benefits aren't as great in Mexico, but that's kind of the risk taken when you immigrate somewhere illegally, no?
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Old 04-15-2017, 07:35 AM
 
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No need to divide the family as she is free to take them home with her. She knew from day one that if she got caught she would be out so no sorry from me!

We knew what was waiting if we wouldn't be in compliance with our visa so we did everything as we needed to do.


Yeah, I just don't understand why people aren't making this argument whenever these stories pop up (about a dozen a day, it seems).

Take.Your.Kids.With.You.


If I moved to Canada illegally and popped out some Canadian kids, then got my ass deported back to the US I wouldn't LEAVE my kids in Canada!!


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Old 04-15-2017, 07:53 AM
 
Location: Kansas
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Where did it say she committed a felony? I don't support felons. From reading the article I did not recall seeing any criminal conviction. I do stand FIRMLY with illegals who don't commit crimes. We are a great nation, let us help those that are here already and enforce and tighten our laws.

I know most of you here agree with me deep down.
You can stand with those that committed the crime of illegal entry, geesh, get a bus ticket and join them as they return to their mother country, oh wait, they have strict laws there on immigration, better crawl under the fence!

Federal court: Fairfield mother of 4 will be deported

Let's see, she was working when she had NO legal right to work in the US and arrested a decade ago. http://johnlawfirm.com/be-careful-if...authorization/ She entered the US 15 years ago WITHOUT authorization: Is Illegal Immigration a Crime? Improper Entry v. Unlawful Presence - FindLaw Blotter

As far as separating a family: 2.7 million US citizen children have a parent behind bars. Over 1 million of our citizen criminals have been convicted of non-violent crimes yet are considered enough of a threat to incarcerate and separate them from their families.

Tell you what, I do not fit your "mose of you here agree with me deep down", I have seen my son suffer in school because "English As A Second Language" was sucking down the Special Education funding and now, I watch thousands of citizens with disabilities and our elderly go without services or get their services reduced because we are funding illegal aliens, especially their dropping of anchors here.

I follow the rules and the laws, and those that don't are screwed in my book, and I will continue to write and speak against anything other than holding everyone to the letter of the law.

Since I have a child with special needs, does that mean I can break the law and their will be a media blitz in an effort to make me not responsible for my actions?
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Old 04-15-2017, 11:44 AM
 
Location: Northwest Peninsula
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To many it does matter as there is indeed a difference. There are no criminal charges just deportation, one would have an easier time getting back in after an overstay rather than entering illegally
First time crossing the border is just a misdemeanor but the second time is felony.

You do know there is a difference between being deported and actually leaving the country? A lot of illegals who have been ordered deported never leave the country and the authorities have no clue to where they are.
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