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Old 04-17-2017, 02:25 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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Jeeze, so if my son got his German gf pregnant, she could leave the country, he should have no parental rights and the kid should not be an American citizen? Really?

There is something really, really wrong with that viewpoint. You consider little half-American, or Latino kids disposable alien critters but your user status whines about abortion. Cognitive dissonance.
If your son is a US citizen then his child is and should be a citizen by virtue of that. Few of us would say otherwise. The issue is with awarding citizenship to children where neither parent is a citizen. That is why the Fourteenth Amendment needs to be reworded to require that at least one parent be a citizen. That would end birth tourism, too.
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Old 04-17-2017, 02:27 PM
 
Location: Kansas
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If your son is a US citizen then his child is and should be a citizen by virtue of that. Few of us would say otherwise. The issue is with awarding citizenship to children where neither parent is a citizen. That is why the Fourteenth Amendment needs to be reworded to require that at least one parent be a citizen. That would end birth tourism, too.
I think the real issue is that the German mother, if deported since she is unlawfully present, would take her baby with her. Since they aren't married, I am not sure how that would play out.

Maybe the German gf, who is deportable, will be deported soon and the issue will disappear.
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Old 04-17-2017, 02:54 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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I think the real issue is that the German mother, if deported since she is unlawfully present, would take her baby with her. Since they aren't married, I am not sure how that would play out.

Maybe the German gf, who is deportable, will be deported soon and the issue will disappear.
That could happen if the German mother were here lawfully and decided to take the baby home to Germany, too. That is a custody issue, not an immigration issue.
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Old 04-18-2017, 12:15 PM
 
Location: Chicago area
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It's horribly sad for someone to be forced out of a country after living in it for a long time. It breaks your heart to see someone deported and living in hardship because of it. But. If you break the law you need to be held accountable for it, whether it be ten days or ten years. It's not fair to the people who come here legally and abide by the laws of becoming a citizen. If you break the law you are playing Russian roulette. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose.
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Old 04-18-2017, 02:12 PM
 
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Her kids should have citizenship stripped
The "anchor baby" law needs to be repelled.

It was NOT intended to be for illegal immigrants in the first place.

I read an argument which basically stated that If the parents are Illegals, they are STILL citizens of the country they came from, therefore any children born from them are automatically citizens of the same country and NOT citizens of the U.S.
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Old 04-18-2017, 04:46 PM
 
Location: Metro Washington DC
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The "anchor baby" law needs to be repelled.

It was NOT intended to be for illegal immigrants in the first place.

I read an argument which basically stated that If the parents are Illegals, they are STILL citizens of the country they came from, therefore any children born from them are automatically citizens of the same country and NOT citizens of the U.S.
What "anchor baby" law? There is no "anchor baby" law. What you seem to be referring to is called 'Birthright citizenship" I believe.
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Old 04-20-2017, 10:30 AM
 
Location: My beloved Bluegrass
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I have worked with children of migrant workers in Florida's schools. I think a lot of you would be SHOCKED to find how many of these "Anchor Babies" have American Born Citizens Mothers and Illegal Fathers. Who's your Daddy?

This is far more common than Illegal Mothers. It only takes ONE US Citizen to not have "Anchor Babies". Want to change this to BOTH parents must be citizens?

BTW, many of these mothers weren't of Hispanic heritage themselves, but this gets into a different subject.
Then they are not anchor babies, their mother will not be deported, and they are no different than any other child born to an American citizen on American soil. Their illegal immigrant father may be deported, but whether the children stay in America with their American citizen mother or go with their illegal immigrant father to the country of his citizenship will be up to the parents.

The question I have in the type of situation that you are describing is why didn't the parents get married, go through the proper channels and request legal citizenship for the father based on marriage?

What does the extent anyone's Hispanic race have anything to do with any of this? The only factor that matters is whether at least one parent is a US citizen or not.
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Old 04-20-2017, 01:37 PM
 
Location: Kansas
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Is it possible that those that did not try to get legal status knew that because of something in their past, it would be denied and it would have outed them on being illegally present? I think looking at some that have been caught, they may have a "colorful" past.
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Old 04-21-2017, 07:13 AM
 
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I think the real issue is that the German mother, if deported since she is unlawfully present, would take her baby with her. Since they aren't married, I am not sure how that would play out.

Maybe the German gf, who is deportable, will be deported soon and the issue will disappear.
If both parents are on the birth certificate, the majority of countries would likely not let the mother bring the child without permission of the father. It could be considered kid napping
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