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Old 03-06-2008, 08:29 PM
 
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I truly believe we need to stop blaming on the Mexicans, like they were the only group of illegals in America, we have them from all over the world.
They work here,because some US company or local business are hiring them, we need to focus our efforts in getting our authorities involved in those places where the law has been violated.
We need to fight back and everyone in their own community should contact DHS and report wherever illegals are been hired. Dont forget to tip your local media, this is not a secret anymore. We need every town in America doing their share, we can do it.
The employers should be responsible for all the expenses and damages caused by illegals working in their payroll, including their unpaid hospital bill, traffic tickets, deportation, etc.

Remember, illegals without a job will go back wherever they came from.
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Old 03-06-2008, 08:48 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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I truly believe we need to stop blaming on the Mexicans, like they were the only group of illegals in America, we have them from all over the world.
They work here,because some US company or local business are hiring them, we need to focus our efforts in getting our authorities involved in those places where the law has been violated.
We need to fight back and everyone in their own community should contact DHS and report wherever illegals are been hired. Dont forget to tip your local media, this is not a secret anymore. We need every town in America doing their share, we can do it.
The employers should be responsible for all the expenses and damages caused by illegals working in their payroll, including their unpaid hospital bill, traffic tickets, deportation, etc.

Remember, illegals without a job will go back wherever they came from.
And; sir, you are correct------hence our laws both here in Arizona as well as Oklahoma addressing the employer side.
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Old 03-06-2008, 10:52 PM
 
Location: Southern Arizona
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Remember, illegals without a job will go back wherever they came from.
Great post . . . great point, CATOGAMO!

However, not everyone blames the illegals 100% nor feels all of the illegals are from Mexico. As far as I am concerned, an Illegal is a Common Arrogant Criminal no matter where he or she may originate.

As far as addressing the scumbag unethical employers . . . ArizonaBear gets BINGO.
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Old 03-07-2008, 07:49 AM
 
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Its so easy, right? We need to help ourselves or nobody will. We can do it.
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Old 03-07-2008, 08:10 PM
 
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Thanks ArizonaBear and Bummer, I feel like we need to contribute in a positive way to these posts, we need to stop complaining and act before is too late. God bless America.
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Old 03-07-2008, 10:40 PM
 
Location: NW Las Vegas - Lone Mountain
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Roughly half of the illegals are paid off the books. You tighten and it goes to 75%.

The construction business, landscaping, janitorial, restaurant kitchens are all filled with people, legal and illegal, working off the books.

You are not going to send the illegals home...just from the tax paying rolls to the off the rolls market.
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Old 03-07-2008, 10:59 PM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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As the state of Arizona has proven, when you threaten to take away business licenses, businesses don't mess around. They stop hiring illegals on OR off the books. Citizens in Arizona WILL report contractors, landscapers, etc that they believe to be employing illegal aliens. Nobody is willing to risk their business. Anyone with any sense would rather take a loss by hiring citizens at a higher salary than lose the entire business altogether.
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Old 03-07-2008, 11:35 PM
 
Location: NW Las Vegas - Lone Mountain
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As the state of Arizona has proven, when you threaten to take away business licenses, businesses don't mess around. They stop hiring illegals on OR off the books. Citizens in Arizona WILL report contractors, landscapers, etc that they believe to be employing illegal aliens. Nobody is willing to risk their business. Anyone with any sense would rather take a loss by hiring citizens at a higher salary than lose the entire business altogether.
Proves nothing of the sort. AZ and NV are about the same. No illegal laws in NV. Mostly a terrible construction industry. Worse in AZ
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Old 03-08-2008, 01:25 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles, which as I understand was once upon a time ago part of the United States of America
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I truly believe we need to stop blaming on the Mexicans, like they were the only group of illegals in America, we have them from all over the world.
They work here,because some US company or local business are hiring them, we need to focus our efforts in getting our authorities involved in those places where the law has been violated.
I've been saying this for years. It's our own people who have betrayed us. I do not hate the people of Mexico simply for existing, but the people right here who of their own volition want to keep our borders open in order to continue the flow of cheap labor, that's another matter. I have a special something reserved for these filthy traitors for all the harm they've caused in order to enrichen themselves at the expense of others.
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Old 03-08-2008, 08:25 AM
 
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I truly believe we need to stop blaming on the Mexicans, like they were the only group of illegals in America, we have them from all over the world.
They work here,because some US company or local business are hiring them, we need to focus our efforts in getting our authorities involved in those places where the law has been violated.
We need to fight back and everyone in their own community should contact DHS and report wherever illegals are been hired. Dont forget to tip your local media, this is not a secret anymore. We need every town in America doing their share, we can do it.
The employers should be responsible for all the expenses and damages caused by illegals working in their payroll, including their unpaid hospital bill, traffic tickets, deportation, etc.

Remember, illegals without a job will go back wherever they came from.
Not all are coming to work. All a Mexican has to do is come over and give birth and they can expect a life of welfare handouts -- which is what we see all along the border. Many aren't working, or they work now and then just for the extra cash.

Mostly you're right though -- the employers need to face some harsh fines. They are benefitting very nicely by bringing in illegals who will work for anything and they aren't providing health care benefits or anything that American workers expect.

The housing develpers -- they made out like bandits -- bringing in truckloads of illegals to build cheaply made houses -- and they sold them at god-awful prices to people who couldn't afford them. Why not go after some of that money they've collected -- every illegal employed should get at least a $50,000 fine but also the employer should be made to pay for any health care or public schoos used, and the costs of any crimes committed.
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