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Old 04-21-2017, 12:30 PM
 
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sort of...except that unlawful presence in the country is not a crime. It is a violation of federal immigration law to remain in the country without legal authorization, but this violation is punishable by civil penalties, not criminal
Agreed, I didn't call it a crime
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Old 04-21-2017, 02:47 PM
 
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sort of...except that unlawful presence in the country is not a crime. It is a violation of federal immigration law to remain in the country without legal authorization, but this violation is punishable by civil penalties, not criminal
It all depends. Unlawful presence after being deported is a crime. Much like unlawful entry is a crime. In any event, "crime" or not, it is unlawful.
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Old 04-21-2017, 03:00 PM
 
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I'm, not sure it is...total removals in 2016 under Obama was 240,000. so, 21,362 in a 3 month period = 7120 a month, or 85,440 a year.
You must be referring to the catch and release policy. They weren't deported.
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Old 04-21-2017, 03:05 PM
 
Location: SC
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Again, I ask... there are tons of MS-13 and other gang members out there, if the Trump administration is looking to deport "bad hombres" why aren't they concentrating on these SOBs?
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Old 04-21-2017, 03:14 PM
 
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You must be referring to the catch and release policy. They weren't deported.
I think that you mean throwback, catch and release is when people are freed before their hearing.
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Old 04-21-2017, 03:15 PM
 
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Again, I ask... there are tons of MS-13 and other gang members out there, if the Trump administration is looking to deport "bad hombres" why aren't they concentrating on these SOBs?
Low hanging fruit is always easiest to pick
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Old 04-21-2017, 03:19 PM
 
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Agreed, I didn't call it a crime
Illegal entry is a crime. Overstaying and illegal entry are two different issues. Unlawful to overstay even if you are legally here.

Overstay visa:
Here is a link. Effects of Overstaying a Permitted U.S. Stay Under a Visa - Lawyers.com

Improper entry:
Is Illegal Immigration a Crime? Improper Entry v. Unlawful Presence - FindLaw Blotter
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Old 04-21-2017, 03:23 PM
 
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Illegal entry is a crime. Overstaying and illegal entry are two different issues. Unlawful to overstay even if you are legally here.

Overstay visa:
Here is a link. Effects of Overstaying a Permitted U.S. Stay Under a Visa - Lawyers.com

Improper entry:
Is Illegal Immigration a Crime? Improper Entry v. Unlawful Presence - FindLaw Blotter
I didn't say differently
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Old 04-21-2017, 07:01 PM
 
Location: Richland, Washington
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An illegal immigrant is a criminal by being here illegally. They have to face the consequences for their actions just like everyone else does. The immigrant advocates don't seem to understand this fact.
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Old 04-21-2017, 07:21 PM
 
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An illegal immigrant is a criminal by being here illegally. They have to face the consequences for their actions just like everyone else does. The immigrant advocates don't seem to understand this fact.
Civil offenses don't make one a criminal. That's the difference between overstay and border hopping. That is a fact
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