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Old 04-22-2017, 09:58 AM
 
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Low hanging fruit is always easiest to pick
I agree. But you would think that a president who is concerned for the safety of citizens from the "bad Hombres" would want to concentrate on those who are the worst of the worst as soon as practicable - those who are actually doing harm to the US and it's citizens. Not removing people for the political optics.
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Old 04-22-2017, 10:10 AM
 
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I agree. But you would think that a president who is concerned for the safety of citizens from the "bad Hombres" would want to concentrate on those who are the worst of the worst as soon as practicable - those who are actually doing harm to the US and it's citizens. Not removing people for the political optics.
Uh; if ALL illegal aliens are running scared: a LOT will leave on their own or would be easy for the cops to pick up, with the few hard cases being real quiet.
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Old 04-22-2017, 12:15 PM
 
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I think that you mean throwback, catch and release is when people are freed before their hearing.
No....I meant "catch and release". Look up Obama's "catch and release" immigration policy. There are tons of links.

In truth, that practice as well as DACA is IMO why there is so much uproar about immigration issues....People who have been used to being allowed to stay even when they got into the U.S. illegally has given them a true sense of "entitlement".

Even though the laws of illegal immigration haven't really changed, and are simply being enforced now.
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Old 04-22-2017, 12:38 PM
 
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No....I meant "catch and release". Look up Obama's "catch and release" immigration policy. There are tons of links.

In truth, that practice as well as DACA is IMO why there is so much uproar about immigration issues....People who have been used to being allowed to stay even when they got into the U.S. illegally has given them a true sense of "entitlement".

Even though the laws of illegal immigration haven't really changed, and are simply being enforced now.
We called it a throwback when I was doing immigration consultation. Never heard of it in that instance.
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Old 04-23-2017, 05:30 AM
 
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Immigration arrests rose 32.6 percent in the first weeks of the Trump administration, with newly empowered federal agents intensifying their pursuit of not just undocumented immigrants with criminal records, but also thousands of illegal immigrants who have been otherwise law-abiding.

U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement arrested 21,362 immigrants, mostly convicted criminals, from January through mid-March, compared to 16,104 during the same period last year, according to statistics requested by The Washington Post.

ICE immigration arrests of noncriminals double under Trump

Def a good start. ^^^
The words the left media uses, say a lot.

"noncriminals"

Being her ILLEGALLY makes them CRIMINALS.

Some on her argue "it is only a misdemeanor" as if that is suppose to matter.

It is STILL breaking a law which makes them CRIMINALS.

[mis-di-mee-ner]



See more synonyms on Thesaurus.com
noun 1. Law. a criminal offense defined as less serious than a felony.

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Old 04-23-2017, 05:39 AM
 
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I'm, not sure it is...total removals in 2016 under Obama was 240,000. so, 21,362 in a 3 month period = 7120 a month, or 85,440 a year.
"ignorance is bliss'

How many times do we have to tell people on here that Obama CHANGED the way "deportations" were counted?

If a person was denied entry at the border and was turned back, Obama COUNTED that as a "deportation", which grossly INFLATED his numbers.

And of course the LSM NEVER mentions that little fact.
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Old 04-23-2017, 05:50 AM
 
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Do you have any evidence that Trump changed Obama's removal definition? I'm curious because I sure haven't heard anything about that happening.
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Spicer: Obama Administration Used 'Different Set of Accounting' to Count Deportations

"He explained that under Obama, ICE used "a different set of accounting," including in its deportation statistics not only formal “removals” from within the U.S. but also “returns,” or people caught and turned around at the U.S.-Mexico border."

Spicer: Obama Administration Used 'Different Set of Accounting' to Count Deportations | MRCTV
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Old 04-23-2017, 06:08 AM
 
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sort of...except that unlawful presence in the country is not a crime. It is a violation of federal immigration law to remain in the country without legal authorization, but this violation is punishable by civil penalties, not criminal
"except that unlawful presence in the country is not a crime."

Sorry, it IS a crime.

Your OWN statement say so.

"It is a violation of federal immigration law to remain in the country"

It may not be a felony and is a misdemeanor BUT, it is STILL a crime to commit a misdemeanor and are subject to judicial penalties.

If you did NOT commit a crime, how can a judge fine you or make you attend DUI classes, etc.?

If you are innocent, you would NOT have to do what the judge decries.


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Misdemeanor

A criminal act that is less serious than a felony is considered to be a “misdemeanor.” While specific laws vary by jurisdiction, misdemeanors generally include such acts as disturbing the peace, petty theft, drunk driving with no injury to others, public drunkenness, simple assault and battery, and traffic violations. These are tried in the local municipal or justice courts, and carry punishments including fines and/or incarceration in the county jail.

Definition of Misdemeanor

Noun

  1. A criminal offense less serious than a felony.
  2. A minor crime punishable by a fine or short jail time.
https://legaldictionary.net/misdemeanor/


This constant babble attempting to change what words mean from pro pro-illegals is getting old.
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Old 04-23-2017, 06:09 AM
 
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Only focus on the criminal elements. Provide a path to legalization for the law abiding ones.

They are criminals as soon as they cross illegally.
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Old 04-23-2017, 06:09 AM
 
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Agreed, I didn't call it a crime
You may not call shooting someone murder BUT, that does NOT change the law.

Sorrry. It IS a crime.
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