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Old 04-24-2017, 06:16 AM
 
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It is for LEGAL aliens and others, NOT ILLEGALS which is the issue at hand.
Wrong.

What is an ITIN?
An Individual Taxpayer Identification Number (ITIN) is a tax processing number issued by the Internal Revenue Service. It is a nine-digit number that always begins with the number 9 and has a range of 70-88 in the fourth and fifth digit. Effective April 12, 2011, the range was extended to include 900-70-0000 through 999-88-9999, 900-90-0000 through 999-92-9999 and 900-94-0000 through 999-99-9999. IRS issues ITINs to individuals who are required to have a U.S. taxpayer identification number but who do not have, and are not eligible to obtain a Social Security Number (SSN) from the Social Security Administration (SSA).

ITINs are issued regardless of immigration status because both resident and nonresident aliens may have a U.S. filing or reporting requirement under the Internal Revenue Code.
https://www.irs.gov/individuals/gene...in-information
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Old 04-24-2017, 06:36 AM
 
Location: Kansas
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While an illegal alien can get a tax number, they cannot legally work in the USA and in so doing, they have committed yet another crime. This will help collect them and expel them from OUR country.

And, the loop hole that lets them get these numbers that are used by more than 50% of the illegals to draw tax refunds. Seems like it would be easy enough to just use this data to help with a speedy cleanup up illegal aliens. So many lists just waiting to be tapped to round them up and ship them out!

This tax numbers DO NOT give them the right to work in the USA.
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Old 04-24-2017, 06:45 AM
 
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While an illegal alien can get a tax number, they cannot legally work in the USA and in so doing, they have committed yet another crime. This will help collect them and expel them from OUR country.

And, the loop hole that lets them get these numbers that are used by more than 50% of the illegals to draw tax refunds. Seems like it would be easy enough to just use this data to help with a speedy cleanup up illegal aliens. So many lists just waiting to be tapped to round them up and ship them out!

This tax numbers DO NOT give them the right to work in the USA.
Nobody said that they did.
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Old 04-24-2017, 07:09 AM
 
Location: Kansas
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Nobody said that they did.
I was just making it clear. Some people do not seem to understand that these people are criminals the moment they enter the US without authorization and for those that overstay visas, they are living outside the law also, they are UNLAWFULLY present. They have no right to work in the US, so these numbers could be used to help with the round up.

That over 50% get the numbers just to further suck the teat of public assistance is not a plus in the eyes of most Americans.

Hopefully the loophole will be closed and we will use the information to facilitate removing both illegal aliens and visa overstays.

It is just awesome that we do at least have rosters of these people. Gravy train in the US is over for them!
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Old 04-24-2017, 11:03 AM
 
Location: Northwest Peninsula
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I was just making it clear. Some people do not seem to understand that these people are criminals the moment they enter the US without authorization and for those that overstay visas, they are living outside the law also, they are UNLAWFULLY present. They have no right to work in the US, so these numbers could be used to help with the round up.

That over 50% get the numbers just to further suck the teat of public assistance is not a plus in the eyes of most Americans.

Hopefully the loophole will be closed and we will use the information to facilitate removing both illegal aliens and visa overstays.

It is just awesome that we do at least have rosters of these people. Gravy train in the US is over for them!
Actually a first time offender when crossing the border is not crime per say, it a misdemeanor like running a stop sign or jay walking. That is the current law.
The second time its a felony.
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Old 04-24-2017, 03:08 PM
 
Location: Kansas
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Actually a first time offender when crossing the border is not crime per say, it a misdemeanor like running a stop sign or jay walking. That is the current law.
The second time its a felony.
No, actually, you are wrong. It is NOT like running a stop sign or jay walking. Jaywalking is breaking a pedestrian traffic law, running a stop sign may or may not be a misdemeanor depending on the state, since we are talking about FEDERAL laws.

Also, as we know, as we have proven, illegal aliens continue to pile on criminal charges as they remain in the US.

So, comparing state traffic laws to federal immigration laws, seriously, just tell them to load their pickup and go home before they get picked up, because it isn't like jaywalking!
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Old 04-24-2017, 04:45 PM
 
Location: Kansas
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Wanted to add this illegal alien as an example of being illegally present, as in a CRIMINAL, and adding to his list of crimes: Zebulon police charge Ramiro Ramirez of Smithfield in crash that killed George Milton Jones of Bunn | News & Observer

We all know they are afraid to dip into the taxpayers' pockets by filing taxes to get their cut based on their anchors and out themselves at a time when the next traffic stop or knock on the door may have them on the bus going to their home where they belong and it is NOT the USA.
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Old 04-24-2017, 07:51 PM
 
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Most anchor babies will not give them the anchor they hope for. When. When backgrounds are checked and it comes out they were here illegally they will get a ban.

Unless we get another Obama kind of President but under this president I don't think having an anchor baby will help an illegal aliens much.

In top of that the baby has to be 22 to be able to endorse the parents.

I believe that anchor babies should be eliminated for legal aliens too. It shouldn't be like a trophy baby.
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Old 04-24-2017, 09:03 PM
 
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Most anchor babies will not give them the anchor they hope for. When. When backgrounds are checked and it comes out they were here illegally they will get a ban.

Unless we get another Obama kind of President but under this president I don't think having an anchor baby will help an illegal aliens much.

In top of that the baby has to be 22 to be able to endorse the parents.

I believe that anchor babies should be eliminated for legal aliens too. It shouldn't be like a trophy baby.
I have NO problem with a kid born in the US getting US citizenship if 1 parent's also a US citizen. DNA testing if needed to prove who the parent is, regardless of sex.
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Old 04-24-2017, 11:20 PM
 
Location: Carmichael, CA
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It is for LEGAL aliens and others, NOT ILLEGALS which is the issue at hand.
It's for ANY person that has a tax liability in the United States.

So that Australian rock star doing a 10 city concert tour will also be receiving an ITIN and filing US taxes on his profit next year. Ditto actors, sports people, etc. The IRS can't get into who should be allowed to have an ITIN or not--it's about whether taxes are due.
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