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A disgrace really . Needs to stop now .
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CNN reported this week that the U.S. government spends more than $10,000 on average to deport each illegal alien, the implication being that taxpayers pay a heavy price for the removal of those in the country illegally.
But a group that advocates for enforcing immigration law says the cost of removal is a bargain.
“It costs a lot more to allow people to remain here,” says Ira Mehlman, a spokesman for the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR).
How much more? FAIR estimates that the burden placed on U.S. taxpayers by the roughly 13 million illegal immigrants residing in the country stands at roughly $113 billion a year.
"U.S. taxpayers by the roughly 13 million illegal immigrants residing in the country stands at roughly $113 billion a year."
Which is why the liberal complaints about the cost of the wall are meaningless.
So, if cost $100 billion, we would recover the total in 10 years. Sounds good, let's get the rosters and buses in action!
As we know, many will leave now that they realize amnesty is no longer on the table as that would have opened the entire array of taxpayer provided benefits to them and then we could have seen how many were willing to do the mythical jobs that Americans would not do. Also, many will realize that if apprehended and deported, it will be years before they can set foot in the US again, so they'll self deport. If we tighten up workplaces where we make it painful for them to hire and retain illegal aliens, that will drive some illegals to their home country.
I think we have too many protections and steps to go through to take care of the problem. They need to either be legally here or deported ASAP. As we know, the wealthy use the cheap labor, love their nannies, gardeners, manufacturing and construction workers, and as they stuff the pockets of the politicians, the politicians get real stupid!
I looked at the 1st article and no where does it break down the costs. Just "estimates" with nothing to back them up.
Keep in mind ALL the people involved in deportation are GOVERNMENT employees, who will be paid whether or not they are involved in deportation, so these "estimates" are useless.
Well if our government didn't encourage people to come here illegal in the first place we wouldn't have the cost of subsidizing them or deporting them in the first place.
"Well if our government didn't encourage people to come here illegal"
I would amend to say, our government under OBAMA....
We NOW have our government under Trump and the message has CHANGED, if you haven't noticed.
A disgrace really . Needs to stop now .
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CNN reported this week that the U.S. government spends more than $10,000 on average to deport each illegal alien, the implication being that taxpayers pay a heavy price for the removal of those in the country illegally.
But a group that advocates for enforcing immigration law says the cost of removal is a bargain.
“It costs a lot more to allow people to remain here,” says Ira Mehlman, a spokesman for the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR).
How much more? FAIR estimates that the burden placed on U.S. taxpayers by the roughly 13 million illegal immigrants residing in the country stands at roughly $113 billion a year.
This so-called fact is based on research from the anti-immigrant hate group FAIR. In 2010, FAIR released a study titled, "The Fiscal Burden of Illegal Immigration on United States Taxpayers," which found "the annual costs of illegal immigration at the federal, state and local level to be about $113 billion." At the time the study was released, FoxNews.com defended both FAIR and the study.
But Fox failed to mention that the study has been debunked.
As Alex Nowrasteh, a former immigration policy analyst at the Competitive Enterprise Institute and currently a Cato Institute immigration policy analyst, pointed out, FAIR's study is riddled with errors and based on "poor methodology" that "fatally undermine this study."
FAIR has a long history of making anti-immigrant remarks and is connected to white nationalist organizations. The group's founder, John Tanton, is the modern day architect of the anti-immigrant, nativist movement and also has a history of making anti-immigrant and racially charged remarks.
Media Matters. Oh yeah these guys that label anyone who doesn't agree with them liars, white supremacists, racists, ect.
[SIZE=2]Modus Operandi: Characterize Conservatives as Liars and Racists
Media Matters has cultivated a well-earned reputation for portraying honest differences of opinion by conservatives as lies, smears, and even evidence of “racism.” According to Republican pollster Frank Luntz, “They are vicious. They only understand one thing: attack, attack, attack.” David Folkenflik, media reporter for National Public Radio, said: “They’re looking at every dangling participle, every dependent clause, every semicolon, every quotation to see if there’s some way it unfairly frames a cause, a party, a candidate that they may have some feelings for.” And a Capital Research Center analysis states that Media Matters, in its effort to “stigmatize and marginalize conservative ideas,” “will typically isolate a small facet of a media story that can be twisted in such a way that suggests that the reporter or commentator is a liar or hypocrite. That tidbit is then used to suggest that everything the original source says must be false and deserving of censure.”
You claim that the FAIR report is "riddled with errors". Please explain these errors for us and in what way they are wrong. You also quote [/SIZE]
Alex Nowrasteh as saying the report is based on "poor methodology" which "fatally undermine this study". Since you say 113 billion dollars is a "proven lie" how about providing the real number?
You do realize that media matters is funded by 'no country should have borders' Soros, don't you?
The no-talent hacks who work for mm simply say what Soros wants them to say.
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Media Matters. Oh yeah these guys that label anyone who doesn't agree with them liars, white supremacists, racists, ect.
[SIZE=2]Modus Operandi: Characterize Conservatives as Liars and Racists
Media Matters has cultivated a well-earned reputation for portraying honest differences of opinion by conservatives as lies, smears, and even evidence of “racism.” According to Republican pollster Frank Luntz, “They are vicious. They only understand one thing: attack, attack, attack.” David Folkenflik, media reporter for National Public Radio, said: “They’re looking at every dangling participle, every dependent clause, every semicolon, every quotation to see if there’s some way it unfairly frames a cause, a party, a candidate that they may have some feelings for.” And a Capital Research Center analysis states that Media Matters, in its effort to “stigmatize and marginalize conservative ideas,” “will typically isolate a small facet of a media story that can be twisted in such a way that suggests that the reporter or commentator is a liar or hypocrite. That tidbit is then used to suggest that everything the original source says must be false and deserving of censure.”
You claim that the FAIR report is "riddled with errors". Please explain these errors for us and in what way they are wrong. You also quote [/SIZE]
Alex Nowrasteh as saying the report is based on "poor methodology" which "fatally undermine this study". Since you say 113 billion dollars is a "proven lie" how about providing the real number?
With some even if they've been here less than 2 years they can be given an expedited removal. Even still many can try and exhaust options available to them
Unfortunately if an illegal alien has been in the country for any extended time, including less then two years the courts would get involved. If their case come up in, lets say a sanctuary city like San Francisco, the out come would probably be different than lets say Wichita Kansas.
Unfortunately if an illegal alien has been in the country for any extended time, including less then two years the courts would get involved. If their case come up in, lets say a sanctuary city like San Francisco, the out come would probably be different than lets say Wichita Kansas.
What I'm saying is that their right to a hearing is gone. ICE can give discretion I believe
If the US puts up a border wall (or just starts it) and continues to mass deportations at the same time, here's what's gonna happen.
Mexico is gonna be p.o.'d.
The MXN government under international Law HAS to agree that any deportee to MX is in fact a MXN citizen before accepting them from the US. IF the wall gets funded/started, MX will simply tell the US to prove any deportee is a MXN citizen....remember, all those illegals crossed with NO documents, birth certificates, etc. The US cannot in 90% of cases prove any deportees native land.
Also, if the wall is funded, until it is built, the MXN government which NOW cooperates very well with the US government in stopping CENTRAL Americans from either crossing MX's southern border, or deports them within MX before they reach the US, well, that's gonna stop. In fact, the MXN government will pave the road from the Guatemalan border to the US border, to help TENS OF MILLIONS CENTRAL Americans get to the US. MS-13 gang and other gangs are 99% from CENTRAL America, not MX.
I don't know why US citizens think that MX has no say in our common border. It certainly does and if tRump pushes the issue, he will harm his own citizens.
What I'm saying is that their right to a hearing is gone. ICE can give discretion I believe
How is their right to a hearing gone?
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