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Old 04-24-2017, 01:12 PM
 
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How is their right to a hearing gone?
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Old 04-24-2017, 01:37 PM
 
Location: My beloved Bluegrass
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Why does it cost 10,000 to deport each individual?
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Good question . It would be interesting to see the breakdown of that cost .
This provides a break down by category per person based on total cost/#deported.

https://www.americanprogress.org/iss...n-immigration/
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Old 04-24-2017, 02:49 PM
 
Location: Kansas
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That 113 billion is a proven lie and FAIR was founded and run by a white supremacist.
https://mediamatters.org/blog/2013/0...om-hate/193546
You are right. It is estimated to be MUCH higher than the $113 billion which is a figure from 2013 before they started pouring in from Central and South America in addition to Mexico because of Obama's promise of amnesty. I can't imagine how HUGE the number is now. Just the medical, birthing those little anchors and all the illegals using the emergency room for their medical care, alone is just unbelievable!

https://amac.us/illegal-immigrants-c...h-care-system/

Their illegal presence and dropping supposed anchors which we pay to raise...............

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If the US puts up a border wall (or just starts it) and continues to mass deportations at the same time, here's what's gonna happen.

Mexico is gonna be p.o.'d.

The MXN government under international Law HAS to agree that any deportee to MX is in fact a MXN citizen before accepting them from the US. IF the wall gets funded/started, MX will simply tell the US to prove any deportee is a MXN citizen....remember, all those illegals crossed with NO documents, birth certificates, etc. The US cannot in 90% of cases prove any deportees native land.

Also, if the wall is funded, until it is built, the MXN government which NOW cooperates very well with the US government in stopping CENTRAL Americans from either crossing MX's southern border, or deports them within MX before they reach the US, well, that's gonna stop. In fact, the MXN government will pave the road from the Guatemalan border to the US border, to help TENS OF MILLIONS CENTRAL Americans get to the US. MS-13 gang and other gangs are 99% from CENTRAL America, not MX.

I don't know why US citizens think that MX has no say in our common border. It certainly does and if tRump pushes the issue, he will harm his own citizens.
Well, gee, we wouldn't want to make Mexico upset. No one cares about Mexico. Mexico will simply be upset over the remittances of those US dollars ($23.6 billion in 2016), which, hopefully, we'll be attaching a tax to in order to help pay or completely pay for the Wall and other requirements to secure our border (Donald Trump Plans to Impound All Remittances to Mexico -- Would That Even Be Possible? | National Review), something that is the responsibility of our Federa Government per the Constitution.

Whatever securing the border and expelling the illegal aliens costs, it is an investment well worth making for the future of our country!
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Old 04-24-2017, 02:52 PM
 
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If the US puts up a border wall (or just starts it) and continues to mass deportations at the same time, here's what's gonna happen.

Mexico is gonna be p.o.'d.

The MXN government under international Law HAS to agree that any deportee to MX is in fact a MXN citizen before accepting them from the US. IF the wall gets funded/started, MX will simply tell the US to prove any deportee is a MXN citizen....remember, all those illegals crossed with NO documents, birth certificates, etc. The US cannot in 90% of cases prove any deportees native land.

Also, if the wall is funded, until it is built, the MXN government which NOW cooperates very well with the US government in stopping CENTRAL Americans from either crossing MX's southern border, or deports them within MX before they reach the US, well, that's gonna stop. In fact, the MXN government will pave the road from the Guatemalan border to the US border, to help TENS OF MILLIONS CENTRAL Americans get to the US. MS-13 gang and other gangs are 99% from CENTRAL America, not MX.

I don't know why US citizens think that MX has no say in our common border. It certainly does and if tRump pushes the issue, he will harm his own citizens.
Uh; IF Mexico tried that, it'd be an Act of War against the US. Too; who's gonna pick up the bodies at the border?
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Old 04-24-2017, 06:57 PM
 
Location: 23.7 million to 162 million miles North of Venus
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If the US puts up a border wall (or just starts it) and continues to mass deportations at the same time, here's what's gonna happen.

Mexico is gonna be p.o.'d.

The MXN government under international Law HAS to agree that any deportee to MX is in fact a MXN citizen before accepting them from the US. IF the wall gets funded/started, MX will simply tell the US to prove any deportee is a MXN citizen....remember, all those illegals crossed with NO documents, birth certificates, etc. The US cannot in 90% of cases prove any deportees native land.

Also, if the wall is funded, until it is built, the MXN government which NOW cooperates very well with the US government in stopping CENTRAL Americans from either crossing MX's southern border, or deports them within MX before they reach the US, well, that's gonna stop. In fact, the MXN government will pave the road from the Guatemalan border to the US border, to help TENS OF MILLIONS CENTRAL Americans get to the US. MS-13 gang and other gangs are 99% from CENTRAL America, not MX.

I don't know why US citizens think that MX has no say in our common border. It certainly does and if tRump pushes the issue, he will harm his own citizens.
Trump had said that if an illegal crosses the southern border then they will be deported back across the southern border, regardless of where the illegals originally come from. Mexico had stated that they do not want non-Mexicans deported back into their country, even though the non-Mexicans come to the US from Mexico. Illegal Mexicans returned to Mexico is fine. Non-Mexicans (illegals from Central America, etc.) returned to Mexico is not fine with Mexico, even though those illegals cross our southern border. Nothing about Mexico requiring the Mexican illegals who are returned to be Mexican citizens, just that they be Mexicans.

Mexico doesn't want illegals crossing their southern border. The drugs and crime that comes with some of those illegals who cross over Mexico's southern border also negatively affects the Mexican population.
Obama gave Mexico $75 million to help secure their southern border.
Mexico won't throw open their southern border to illegals and then make a superhighway to shuffle those illegals to our southern border. Now that open borders Obama is no longer in control, Mexico would probably be stuck with the majority of their illegals, and they know it.

Things that could dry up if Mexico won't play ball...
The US has been giving Mexico billions in foreign aid , that would probably stop
NAFTA trade could be somewhat curtailed, completely halted or made financially unfeasible due to high tariffs.
State-to-state visas for Mexican nationals would probably be stopped.

We have the leverage, Mexico has none. Mexico would suffer worse then they all ready are financially.
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Old 04-26-2017, 04:24 PM
 
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$113 billion wasted on illegals ... a year!

A disgrace really . Needs to stop now .
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CNN reported this week that the U.S. government spends more than $10,000 on average to deport each illegal alien, the implication being that taxpayers pay a heavy price for the removal of those in the country illegally.

But a group that advocates for enforcing immigration law says the cost of removal is a bargain.

“It costs a lot more to allow people to remain here,” says Ira Mehlman, a spokesman for the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR).

How much more? FAIR estimates that the burden placed on U.S. taxpayers by the roughly 13 million illegal immigrants residing in the country stands at roughly $113 billion a year.




It is the governments job, period.
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