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Old 04-29-2017, 07:19 PM
 
Location: Kūkiʻo, HI & Manhattan Beach, CA
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That's not our fault! If they were deported, then they were here illegally.
How is it not the fault of the United States government for the rise of MS-13 and similar gangs? The U.S. actively supported a right-wing government that butchered its own people during the Salvadoran Civil War (1979-1982) and it failed to enforce its own immigration laws when hundreds of thousands of Salvadoran refugees arrived at its doorstep.

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Are you saying our citizens should take the brunt of these machete wielding monsters because our law enforcement can deal with it?
Nope. It's a problem that requires the coordination of local law enforcement agencies and national governments in the United States, Mexico, El Salvador, Ecuador, Guatemala, the Honduras, and a few other countries.
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Old 04-29-2017, 07:30 PM
 
Location: Kūkiʻo, HI & Manhattan Beach, CA
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Ha, ha that is funny...so we in the US are more well equipped....I guess Long Island lost the memo.

MS-13 street gang grips Long Island suburbs in violence - ABC News

On the Tucker Carson show last night he said 93% of MS-13 members in Long Island were in the country illegally. The guest, an open border advocate, could not/would not dispute the figure. I wonder what the % is in LA county.
This quote from the ABC News story that you linked to pretty much explains what resulted from deporting MS-13 members…
MS-13, or the Mara Salvatrucha, is believed by federal prosecutors to have thousands of members across the U.S., primarily immigrants from Central America. It has a stronghold in Los Angeles, where it emerged in the 1980s as a neighborhood street gang.

But its true rise began after members were deported back to El Salvador in the 1990s. There, the gang thrived and spread to Honduras. MS-13 and rival groups there now control entire towns, rape girls and young women, massacre students, bus drivers and merchants who refuse to pay extortion and kill competitors.

That violence has prompted a migration of people trying to escape, especially children, who have streamed north because of a U.S. policy allowing people under 18 who arrive without parents to stay in the country temporarily with relatives or friends.
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Old 04-29-2017, 09:37 PM
 
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How is it not the fault of the United States government for the rise of MS-13 and similar gangs? The U.S. actively supported a right-wing government that butchered its own people during the Salvadoran Civil War (1979-1982) and it failed to enforce its own immigration laws when hundreds of thousands of Salvadoran refugees arrived at its doorstep.


Nope. It's a problem that requires the coordination of local law enforcement agencies and national governments in the United States, Mexico, El Salvador, Ecuador, Guatemala, the Honduras, and a few other countries.
IF the US is gonna go and put MS 13 and so on in their place: Mexico, Salvador and so on WON'T like it cause IMHO the US will play for keeps.
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Old 04-30-2017, 11:02 AM
 
Location: Northwest Peninsula
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There are many streets in our own country that are not safe to walk during the day and/or night, in many cases, this has to do with our open border. This is where our interest needs to be, in making our streets safe. We are too often all up in the business of foreign countries while our own citizens struggle in so many ways.

These 3rd world citizens bring their issues here with them. They need to go home and take care of their own house there! They need to work on their own problems and demand changes rather than come here and ride our coattails! Many of our citizens have died, suffered and worked their butts off so that our country could be as it is. These foreigners need to do the same.
I agree..especially the last part. But in Mexico there are two distinct classes of people, one the basally poor native Mexican class which are the ones who you mostly see in the US and two the wealthy European Mexican class who calls the shots and could care less about the former.
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Old 04-30-2017, 11:07 AM
 
Location: Northwest Peninsula
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Nope. It's a problem that requires the coordination of local law enforcement agencies and national governments in the United States, Mexico, El Salvador, Ecuador, Guatemala, the Honduras, and a few other countries.
That would be like herding a clowder of cats.
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Old 05-02-2017, 08:27 AM
 
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We should still kill them on sight. They're not even a gang anymore, they're a multinational paramilitary organization.

They couldn't have even started in LA if they hadn't snuck in here from El Salvador.
Yes yes, of course. The US would be crime free if those Africans never came here, those Italians never came here, those Irish, etc. etc. etc. Let's just deport anyone who can't trace all 8 of their great grandparents to Great Britain.
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Old 05-02-2017, 03:27 PM
 
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Yes yes, of course. The US would be crime free if those Africans never came here, those Italians never came here, those Irish, etc. etc. etc. Let's just deport anyone who can't trace all 8 of their great grandparents to Great Britain.
^^^^

All countries have their homegrown lowlifes. Don't pretend otherwise.

We don't need to be importing lowlifes. The homegrown ones cause us more than enough problems. Any MS-13 or other gangs that are here illegally, at the very least, need to be sent back to where they came from. Do you agree?

As for killing off these vile gang members, that's exactly what El Salvador is doing to MS-13 members:

http://www.aljazeera.com/programmes/...123642933.html

https://www.opendemocracy.net/democr...in-el-salvador

If you feel bad for any of these gang members, feel free to take them into your own home and attempt to rehabilitate them at your own expense.
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Old 05-02-2017, 10:49 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn
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These criminals should be thrown in the sea or sent overseas to battle terrorists.
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Old 05-03-2017, 08:39 AM
 
Location: North Texas
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^^^^

All countries have their homegrown lowlifes. Don't pretend otherwise.

We don't need to be importing lowlifes. The homegrown ones cause us more than enough problems. Any MS-13 or other gangs that are here illegally, at the very least, need to be sent back to where they came from. Do you agree?

As for killing off these vile gang members, that's exactly what El Salvador is doing to MS-13 members:

El Salvador: Assassins For Sale - Al Jazeera English

https://www.opendemocracy.net/democr...in-el-salvador

If you feel bad for any of these gang members, feel free to take them into your own home and attempt to rehabilitate them at your own expense.
Good for them. I honestly think exterminating them is the only solution. You can't rehabilitate these scrotes. Just do society a favor and put them down like rabid dogs.
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