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Old 04-09-2008, 12:59 PM
 
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I've seen plenty of employers get raided. After the raids, the pro-illegals scream racism and cry for no more raids!!!

 
Old 04-09-2008, 01:00 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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Have you in fact seen any company employers have this happen? I have not heard of one business closing do to this and I also live in Arizona.
Closing? No.

Prosecutions? Yes

We have a system in the US called Due Process. You might want to look it up.

You also might want to study up on the Employer Sanctions Law in AZ - find out the specific penalties.

Clearly, you are unfamiliar with the law and the process
 
Old 04-09-2008, 01:01 PM
 
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I've seen plenty of employers get raided. After the raids, the pro-illegals scream racism and cry for no more raids!!!
And what happened to the employers?? Are they still in business, and what state is this in?
 
Old 04-09-2008, 01:03 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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And what happened to the employers?? Are they still in business, and what state is this in?

What does the law say Sassyone??
 
Old 04-09-2008, 01:09 PM
 
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And what happened to the employers?? Are they still in business, and what state is this in?
The Swift plant in Colorado is just one example. Why shouldn't they still be in business when they made efforts into hiring legal workers and still employ hundreds of legal workers as well?
 
Old 04-09-2008, 01:32 PM
 
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The Swift plant in Colorado is just one example. Why shouldn't they still be in business when they made efforts into hiring legal workers and still employ hundreds of legal workers as well?
I'm not saying that they should not be in business, but if they employed illegals then they should recieve jail time or whatever it takes. The illegals would not be here except for our goverment and employers.
 
Old 04-09-2008, 01:34 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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I'm not saying that they should not be in business, but if they employed illegals then they should recieve jail time or whatever it takes. The illegals would not be here except for our goverment and employers.

Sassyone - what does Arizona's Employer Sanction law provide for, as penalties for hiring Illegals?

Do you know?

Have you ever even read the law??
 
Old 04-09-2008, 02:13 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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Sassy - what does Arizona's Employer Sanction law provide for, as penalties for hiring Illegals?

Do you know?

Have you ever even read the law??
 
Old 04-09-2008, 04:57 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma(formerly SoCalif) Originally Mich,
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Businesses that hire illegal workers can be shut down, thanks to a new state law. The sheriff of Maricopa County, which includes Phoenix and three-fifths of Arizona's population, has urged his deputies and volunteer "posses" to seek out illegal immigrants.

Watertown Daily Times | Arizona crackdown
 
Old 04-10-2008, 10:51 AM
 
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A wall or fence on the border will have a minimal effect on the tide of illegal immigrants entering the US from Mexico, walls and fences have never been a deterrent to people who have wanted to cross borders. The Berlin wall and even the Great wall of China did not prevent crossings or invasions from other countries.


Illegal immigration is certainly a problem in the US and even other countries are having problems with legal immigrants. Lower classes of workers have seen an effective reduction of real wages over the last 20 years, in part because salaries and wages have not kept up with inflation, but also because illegal immigrants are willing to work for less then an American for the same service.
The government is not unhappy about this because they get income taxes from people who use false SS numbers, and never file tax returns. They also contribute to the economy as a whole.


Its estimated that Houston Texas has one million Illegals, and cities that have "sanctuary" policies have similar populations who make up a large part of the economies. Eliminating these people would effect nearly all aspects of the economy, possibly in a way that would positively effect Americans, and negativity effect the businesses in these cities.


Rents would go down as thousands of apartments suddenly came on the market, salaries and wages for Americans would grow as the result of positions opening, and competitions increased for jobs.


America would be better off if illegal immigration was curtailed, and illegals here were removed from the picture.
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