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Old 05-06-2017, 03:40 PM
 
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West Valley mother facing deportation gets last-minute OK to stay | Deseret News

According to this article, she did more than fail to land a citizen to get herself in this situation.

"ICE officials said Wednesday that Avelar-Flores "has been under final orders of removal for about 20 years."

ICE said Avelar-Flores first came to the United States in April 1993 on a six-month visa but remained after it expired. She was 7 years old at the time.

Two years later, a federal judge ordered her to leave. And an immigration appeals board upheld the directive in 1997. ICE agents arrested Avelar-Flores last week based on those orders from decades earlier, said agency spokesman Carl Rusnok.

A search of state court records shows Avelar-Flores' criminal history in Utah is limited to vehicle and driver's license offenses, and a city ordinance violation. None of her convictions rises above a class C misdemeanor. A federal court database search yielded no results."

I would guess her parents were told to leave, and didn't. I also see she likes to violate motor vehicle laws.
20 years ago she was 11. So no she violated no court order. Her parents may have.

And she may well have gotten a traffic ticket. So what?

I suggested earlier she might well beat it. Because this occurred in SLC and she had support.
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Old 05-06-2017, 04:08 PM
 
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20 years ago she was 11. So no she violated no court order. Her parents may have.

And she may well have gotten a traffic ticket. So what?

I suggested earlier she might well beat it. Because this occurred in SLC and she had support.
She apparently got more than "a" traffic ticket.

We are apparently stuck with her for a least another 90 days.
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Old 05-06-2017, 04:30 PM
 
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She apparently got more than "a" traffic ticket.

We are apparently stuck with her for a least another 90 days.
Nope. She is not going anywhere. Good old SLC and the Mormon Women. It is all over.
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Old 05-06-2017, 05:34 PM
 
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Nope. She is not going anywhere. Good old SLC and the Mormon Women. It is all over.
She's been given 90 days to leave. She's not staying
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Old 05-06-2017, 05:45 PM
 
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20 years ago she was 11. So no she violated no court order. Her parents may have.

And she may well have gotten a traffic ticket. So what?

I suggested earlier she might well beat it. Because this occurred in SLC and she had support.
Aren't you one that harps on "law-abiding illegals". But, it is OK if they break traffic laws. Here, in little illegal town, there is a stream of "hit and runs", never saw anything like it. At least one in the newspaper every week.

Also, the article said vehicle, traffic and city violations, not just traffic ticket and this is on top of her being illegal present. It isn't like having been ordered out of the country she didn't understand there was an issue.

The article says that last month the supporters rallied for another mother from Columbia and were unsuccessful, hopefully they will be unsuccessful once again to send a message that babies do not anchor you to the USA.

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Nope. She is not going anywhere. Good old SLC and the Mormon Women. It is all over.
Just because you keep repeating it, it won't make it so.

The whole story, it doesn't appear to be there. There is just something missing.

I think it is very generous to give her the 90 days to get her affairs in order. Since she is a citizen in her country of origin, she should be able to maybe get dual-citizenship for the kids and take them along.
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Old 05-06-2017, 08:18 PM
 
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She's been given 90 days to leave. She's not staying
Nope. the action has been stayed for 90 days during which she will apply to a program and be accepted giving her a renewable two year deferment.
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Old 05-06-2017, 08:23 PM
 
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Aren't you one that harps on "law-abiding illegals". But, it is OK if they break traffic laws. Here, in little illegal town, there is a stream of "hit and runs", never saw anything like it. At least one in the newspaper every week.

Also, the article said vehicle, traffic and city violations, not just traffic ticket and this is on top of her being illegal present. It isn't like having been ordered out of the country she didn't understand there was an issue.

The article says that last month the supporters rallied for another mother from Columbia and were unsuccessful, hopefully they will be unsuccessful once again to send a message that babies do not anchor you to the USA.



Just because you keep repeating it, it won't make it so.

The whole story, it doesn't appear to be there. There is just something missing.

I think it is very generous to give her the 90 days to get her affairs in order. Since she is a citizen in her country of origin, she should be able to maybe get dual-citizenship for the kids and take them along.
If you don't give people drivers licenses in a place where driving is virtually required you will end up with hit and runs. One of the big reasons CA chose to provide DL to illegals. Simply to try and stop that nonsense. If you won't allow people to be legal they will not be.

City violations can be anything from an uncleared icy sidewalk to a weedy lawn. They are generally not considered deportable offenses. The rest of the stuff is all traffic tickets.
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Old 05-07-2017, 02:32 AM
 
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If you don't give people drivers licenses in a place where driving is virtually required you will end up with hit and runs. One of the big reasons CA chose to provide DL to illegals. Simply to try and stop that nonsense. If you won't allow people to be legal they will not be.

City violations can be anything from an uncleared icy sidewalk to a weedy lawn. They are generally not considered deportable offenses. The rest of the stuff is all traffic tickets.


You are doing your best to discount the deportable offenses that do exist,
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Old 05-07-2017, 09:05 AM
 
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Nope. the action has been stayed for 90 days during which she will apply to a program and be accepted giving her a renewable two year deferment.
What news are you reading? Every source I've seen says that she needs to give ICE notice of plans to leave in 30 days but 90 days to leave
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Old 05-07-2017, 09:57 AM
 
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If you don't give people drivers licenses in a place where driving is virtually required you will end up with hit and runs. One of the big reasons CA chose to provide DL to illegals. Simply to try and stop that nonsense. If you won't allow people to be legal they will not be.

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Interesting viewpoint. May I use it? If it is virtually required that I obtain more money the bank had better give it to me or it will end up being robbed.
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