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Old 05-08-2017, 04:49 PM
 
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Unlike parents who break the law and go to jail, involuntarily separating them from their children, those who violate our immigration laws are only separated from their children if they choose not to take their kids with them. If they choose to leave their kids behind, it is entirely on them.
Not true
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Old 05-08-2017, 05:19 PM
 
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Alot of these guys had final orders to leave voluntarily...in some cases immigration allowed them to stay if they checked in once a year, it wasn't ever meant to be permanent...a responsible parent would have planned ahead and make arrangements to take the whole family back home but they chose to stay and take a chance and get detained involuntarily then cry for breaking up families, traumatizing the 4 kids
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Old 05-08-2017, 05:39 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Yes usually when parent engage in illegal activity or generally screw up its the kids that suffer. Adults really need to think about the impact their actions may have on their children.
No diff when US Citizens do the crime and go to prison and have children.
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Old 05-08-2017, 06:46 PM
 
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Not true
How is it not true?
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Old 05-08-2017, 08:05 PM
 
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How is it not true?
A friend of mine works in the local foster care system. She's seen more than one case where because the parents were detained and the children citizens they were taken into foster care. Also she's seen it happen with non citizen minors. The parents didn't have any other crimes. She said more often than not the children end up adopted as the parents have a hard time fighting the legal battle abroad
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Old 05-08-2017, 09:00 PM
 
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A friend of mine works in the local foster care system. She's seen more than one case where because the parents were detained and the children citizens they were taken into foster care. Also she's seen it happen with non citizen minors. The parents didn't have any other crimes. She said more often than not the children end up adopted as the parents have a hard time fighting the legal battle abroad
I don't feel sorry for the parents. It's their fault they had kids and, wouldn't do things right.
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Old 05-08-2017, 11:09 PM
 
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And the fault is with the parents. Criminals only care about themselves. Screw the kids, screw everyone else. A very common criminal mentality. Chances are the kids are already on welfare and already a tax payer burden.
If only they had the education or money to obtain a work permit or job or a visa, they would be doing some office jobs back in Mexico or wherever. Its because they do not know the difference between right and wrong, legal and illegal, they suffer. If they had that intelligence, they wouldnt be cleaning tables or driving trucks.

The ICE or DHS is doing their job correctly and law is taking its own course. Only the attitude of some posters here is disgusting than the whole scenario itself.

Its ok if Trump doesnt pay tax in 20 years or spend 1 trillion for war, but its your tax pennies that matters.
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Old 05-09-2017, 10:09 AM
 
Location: Cumberland Co., TN
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If only they had the education or money to obtain a work permit or job or a visa, they would be doing some office jobs back in Mexico or wherever. Its because they do not know the difference between right and wrong, legal and illegal, they suffer. If they had that intelligence, they wouldnt be cleaning tables or driving trucks.

The ICE or DHS is doing their job correctly and law is taking its own course. Only the attitude of some posters here is disgusting than the whole scenario itself.

Its ok if Trump doesnt pay tax in 20 years or spend 1 trillion for war, but its your tax pennies that matters.
One has got nothing to do with the other. There is a legal way and an illegal way to come to this country to live and work. People who cheat on their taxes or find legal loopholes or our government going to war (defense is one of the major roles of the federal government) doesn't absolve individuals from violating our laws or from reaping the benefits of tax supported social services that should rightly go to citizens in need.
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Old 05-09-2017, 12:01 PM
 
Location: Northwest Peninsula
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Its ok if Trump doesnt pay tax in 20 years or spend 1 trillion for war, but its your tax pennies that matters.
Where did you come up with the above? Do you have evidence Trump didn't pay taxes according to the US tax laws?
According to a tax form that MSNBC's Rachel Maddow come up with and shown the world (illegally obtained as tax returns are covered under privacy laws) Trump made around $150 million in 2005 and paid $38 million in federal taxes....
You also have to come up with something better then Trump spending one dime on any war that Obama couldn't or even admit there was a war. Remember Obama says 'Bin Laden is dead and Al Qaeda is no more'? A couple weeks later all hell broke out in Libya and Yemen.....Oh right, Hillary Clinton magic strikes again.
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Old 05-09-2017, 01:21 PM
 
Location: Florida & Cebu, Philippines
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Its ok if Trump doesnt pay tax in 20 years or spend 1 trillion for war, but its your tax pennies that matters.
Fake news, try watching and reading more than just the far left news, it might open your eyes. How can you really think that when the left was in total control and had a far left IRS commissioner who targeted conservatives, that if it was true about Trump not paying taxes that they would not have used it against him in the election, use your own brain and think it out.
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