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05-16-2008, 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by barinnas
The great myth of the "cost" of migant workers, is just a myth.
The facts are the facts, migrant workers pay billions, and billlions of dollars in taxes and social security, and never apply for refunds or benefits, that amount offsets any money spent in their care, overcrowded Hospitals??
get real, as part of the administrative and medical staffof a hospital near a big enclave of migrant workers I can tell you otherwise, as I already commented in another post; of the 8 million dollarsof uncollected money,
only 0.003% was suspected to come from migrant workers(approx $25,000)
which is next to nothing.
We should be grateful to our migrant workforce and support them 
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You have yet to provide one iota of hard evidence to support the claim that illegal aliens contribute more than they take. As things stand now, this is nothing more than your opinion.
The fact that your hospital was only on the hook for $25,000 in unpaid bills run up by illegal aliens in no way implies that other US hospitals are owed only a similar minuscule amount.
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05-16-2008, 07:30 PM
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The land of bougainvillea, citrus and palm trees
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Originally Posted by andreabeth
You have yet to provide one iota of hard evidence to support the claim that illegal aliens contribute more than they take. As things stand now, this is nothing more than your opinion.
The fact that your hospital was only on the hook for $25,000 in unpaid bills run up by illegal aliens in no way implies that other US hospitals are owed only a similar minuscule amount.
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I take anything that barinnas says with a grain of salt 
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05-16-2008, 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by andreabeth
You have yet to provide one iota of hard evidence to support the claim that illegal aliens contribute more than they take. As things stand now, this is nothing more than your opinion.
The fact that your hospital was only on the hook for $25,000 in unpaid bills run up by illegal aliens in no way implies that other US hospitals are owed only a similar minuscule amount.
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Some people are so blinded with their hate, that nothing makes them reason.
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05-16-2008, 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by barinnas
Some people are so blinded with their hate, that nothing makes them reason.
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And some people like to eat diced bananas with horseradish sauce, while others prefer not to. But neither THIS post, nor yours, addresses the "evidence" that Andreabeth asked you to provide, showing that illegal immigrants provide more benefits to American society than they "take away".
I have an uncomfortable feeling that this isn't about "benefitting" America, anyway. I think we're really talking about illegal immigration benefitting the illegals.....and if that comes at the expense of others, that's OK....right?
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05-16-2008, 09:45 PM
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And some people like to eat diced bananas with horseradish sauce, while others prefer not to. But neither THIS post, nor yours, addresses the "evidence" that Andreabeth asked you to provide, showing that illegal immigrants provide more benefits to American society than they "take away".
I have an uncomfortable feeling that this isn't about "benefitting" America, anyway. I think we're really talking about illegal immigration benefitting the illegals.....and if that comes at the expense of others, that's OK....right?
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I get that same distinct impression as well. 
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05-16-2008, 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by macmeal
And some people like to eat diced bananas with horseradish sauce, while others prefer not to. But neither THIS post, nor yours, addresses the "evidence" that Andreabeth asked you to provide, showing that illegal immigrants provide more benefits to American society than they "take away".
I have an uncomfortable feeling that this isn't about "benefitting" America, anyway. I think we're really talking about illegal immigration benefitting the illegals.....and if that comes at the expense of others, that's OK....right?
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Some people regard Osama Bin Laden as a terrorist, others as a hero, it all depend which point of view you're using, some people claim that being vegetarian is the ultimate state, however populations in the balcans and the caucassus that heavily depend on pork have the highest life expectancy in the world.
Now, what if some of these people that claim that migrant workers threat
their assets, made their assets from migrant workers work?
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05-16-2008, 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by barinnas
Some people regard Osama Bin Laden as a terrorist, others as a hero, it all depend which point of view you're using, some people claim that being vegetarian is the ultimate state, however populations in the balcans and the caucassus that heavily depend on pork have the highest life expectancy in the world.
Now, what if some of these people that claim that migrant workers threat
their assets, made their assets from migrant workers work?
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Remember:
Legal immigrants are OK
Illegal immigrants are not OK.......they are lawbreakers and need to be dealt with accordingly. If it means jail time in Tent Cities, so be it.
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05-16-2008, 11:13 PM
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Retro done right - 2009 Challenger R/T
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Quote:
Originally Posted by barinnas
Some people regard Osama Bin Laden as a terrorist, others as a hero, it all depend which point of view you're using, some people claim that being vegetarian is the ultimate state, however populations in the balcans and the caucassus that heavily depend on pork have the highest life expectancy in the world.
Now, what if some of these people that claim that migrant workers threat
their assets, made their assets from migrant workers work?
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What if they didn't make their assets from migrant workers work? 'Migrant workers' = illegal aliens
(and it's Balkans and Caucasus)
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05-16-2008, 11:28 PM
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The land of bougainvillea, citrus and palm trees
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Originally Posted by andreabeth
What if they didn't make their assets from migrant workers work? 'Migrant workers' = illegal aliens
(and it's Balkans and Caucasus)
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Consider the source.
The poster in question is grasping at straws due to public sentiment tilting against illegals......I sense desperation, shall we say 
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05-16-2008, 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by ArizonaBear
Consider the source.
The poster in question is grasping at straws due to public sentiment tilting against illegals......I sense desperation, shall we say 
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As long as there are millions of people like me, who sponsor migrant workers,
they will be a part of our society,  
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