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Old 05-15-2017, 12:27 PM
 
Location: Kūkiʻo, HI & Manhattan Beach, CA
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Illegal aliens are not domiciled in the US. Their domicile is in their home country, which would issue their passport were they to have one.
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I said illegal aliens do not have a lawful residence in the US. Additionally, they are not domiciled in the US.
What are your sources for this funky interpretation of "domicile" and "lawful residence?"
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Old 05-17-2017, 07:19 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Most of the "numerous legal examples" that you've given don't necessarily prove the points that you are trying to make
Actually, they do. You're unhappy about that. Too bad. /shrug
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Old 05-17-2017, 07:22 AM
 
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What are your sources for this funky interpretation of "domicile" and "lawful residence?"
The proof comes down to two simple questions... Which country would issue the alien's passport were they to have one? Does the alien have LEGAL permanent resident status?
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Old 05-17-2017, 08:04 AM
 
Location: Kūkiʻo, HI & Manhattan Beach, CA
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Actually, they do. You're unhappy about that. Too bad. /shrug
If you say so.

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The proof comes down to two simple questions... Which country would issue the alien's passport were they to have one? Does the alien have LEGAL permanent resident status?
That's not proof -- that's your misinformed interpretation. Try again, citing primary sources, such as relevant statutes and cases for your definitions of "domicile" and "lawful residence."
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Old 05-17-2017, 08:12 AM
 
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If you say so.


That's not proof -- that's your misinformed interpretation. Try again, citing primary sources, such as relevant statutes and cases for your definitions of "domicile" and "lawful residence."
I did. Earlier in the thread. My definition of domicile doesn't matter. Neither does yours. USCIS determines who is legally present as a resident in the US.

It comes down to two simple questions... Which country would issue the alien's passport were they to have one? Does the alien have LEGAL permanent resident status?
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Old 05-17-2017, 12:13 PM
 
Location: Kūkiʻo, HI & Manhattan Beach, CA
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I did. Earlier in the thread. My definition of domicile doesn't matter. Neither does yours. USCIS determines who is legally present as a resident in the US.
Apparently, you're misinformed about the role of the USCIS. The Immigration Court Practice Manual issued by the DOJ might help to set you straight…

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It comes down to two simple questions... Which country would issue the alien's passport were they to have one? Does the alien have LEGAL permanent resident status?
Hopefully, you realize that the issuing of a passport is not necessarily related to "domicile" or "residence." Things like "citizenship-by-investment" programs tend to sever the links among "domicile," "residence" and the issuing of passports. As a matter of fact, some countries (like Grenada) don't even require setting foot there before issuing a passport to participants in its "citizenship-by-investment" program.
Official Grenada Citizenship by Investment Programme

Now, let's get back to your definition of "domicile" and "lawful residence," supported by relevant, primary sources -- a task that first-year law students (and even some elementary school students) can do with relative ease.
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Old 05-17-2017, 06:01 PM
 
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Apparently, you're misinformed about the role of the USCIS. The Immigration Court Practice Manual issued by the DOJ might help to set you straight…
Why cite a 'policy manual' when actual immigration law contradicts it?
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Old 05-17-2017, 06:38 PM
 
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Do you want one or both parents to be natural born citizens in order for birthright citizenship for their children?
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Old 05-17-2017, 07:31 PM
 
Location: Kūkiʻo, HI & Manhattan Beach, CA
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Why cite a 'policy manual' when actual immigration law contradicts it?
It appears that you didn't read the "Immigration Court Practice Manual" before replying; however, feel free to point out where it contradicts "actual immigration law" in the United States.
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Old 05-17-2017, 08:04 PM
 
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Do you want one or both parents to be natural born citizens in order for birthright citizenship for their children?
1 parent's plenty. Why I say that is if suppose some American lady gets preggers out of the US, she may NOT even know who the father was and, her kid should be a US citizen, no questions asked.
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