Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies > Illegal Immigration
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 05-06-2017, 12:26 PM
 
7,687 posts, read 5,120,849 times
Reputation: 5482

Advertisements

This needs to happen to have a decision once and for all. Any anchors born to illegals will not be american citizens, but they will be citizens of their illegal parents' home country
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 05-06-2017, 01:57 PM
 
20,524 posts, read 15,901,778 times
Reputation: 5948
Quote:
Originally Posted by westcoastforme View Post
This needs to happen to have a decision once and for all. Any anchors born to illegals will not be american citizens, but they will be citizens of their illegal parents' home country
I'd be Ok with that if BOTH parents were illegal aliens AND if any anchor kids above a certain age like 18 or older keep their US citizenship. But the parents would still need to go back home.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-06-2017, 02:49 PM
 
7,687 posts, read 5,120,849 times
Reputation: 5482
Quote:
Originally Posted by Packard fan View Post
I'd be Ok with that if BOTH parents were illegal aliens AND if any anchor kids above a certain age like 18 or older keep their US citizenship. But the parents would still need to go back home.
I agree. Although I would make it anyone under 21 gets their anchor citizenship stripped
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-06-2017, 03:02 PM
 
Location: Kūkiʻo, HI & Manhattan Beach, CA
2,624 posts, read 7,259,689 times
Reputation: 2416
Quote:
Originally Posted by westcoastforme View Post
This needs to happen to have a decision once and for all. Any anchors born to illegals will not be american citizens, but they will be citizens of their illegal parents' home country
Considering that the "Citizenship Clause" of the 14th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution pretty much settled the issue, the Supreme Court will probably deny certiorari to any case that directly raises it. The reverent part of the 14th Amendment is as follows…
Amendment XIV, Section 1, Clause 1
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.
If it's any consolation, folks born in American Samoa (an unincorporated U.S. territory) don't necessarily get automatic U.S. citizenship at birth.
U.S. top court rejects American Samoan birthright citizenship bid | Reuters

Last edited by Jonah K; 05-06-2017 at 03:19 PM..
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-06-2017, 04:36 PM
 
1,225 posts, read 605,646 times
Reputation: 307
I could not see them getting away with stripping citizenship retroactively, especially for adults. As well I agree that if one parent is a US citizen (mother or father are equal in this IMO, none of this citizenship of the mother stuff) they should be able to keep it.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-06-2017, 04:38 PM
 
1,225 posts, read 605,646 times
Reputation: 307
Quote:
Originally Posted by westcoastforme View Post
I agree. Although I would make it anyone under 21 gets their anchor citizenship stripped
This seems reasonable but possibly unattainable
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-06-2017, 05:02 PM
 
Location: Kansas
25,962 posts, read 22,113,827 times
Reputation: 26694
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jonah K View Post
Considering that the "Citizenship Clause" of the 14th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution pretty much settled the issue, the Supreme Court will probably deny certiorari to any case that directly raises it. The reverent part of the 14th Amendment is as follows…
Amendment XIV, Section 1, Clause 1
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.
If it's any consolation, folks born in American Samoa (an unincorporated U.S. territory) don't necessarily get automatic U.S. citizenship at birth.
U.S. top court rejects American Samoan birthright citizenship bid | Reuters
Those born to illegal aliens are subject to the same jurisdiction as their illegal alien parents, and that IS NOT the USA.

Birthright Citizenship: Two Perspectives : Publications : The Federalist Society

The 14th Amendment to the United States Constitution - Fourteenth Amendment - anchor babies birthright citizenship - interpretations and misinterpretations - US Constitution

In Under 5 Minutes, Mark Levin Debunks Anchor Baby Law - www.independentsentinel.com

Anchor babies, birthright citizenship, and the 14th Amendment | immigration resources reference issues

This is as critical as enforcing e-verify and fining employers heavily, since in the absence of a job, they just have 4 kids (a magic number for some reason) and such the teat of public assistance. The whole family gets Section 8 housing for one anchor baby and the array of welfare entitlements for that anchor, this includes the cost of the birth, not just raising and educating it. Critical that we clarify this and it is more than clear that these anchor babies are not citizens. Also, they aren't anchors and are to return with their illegal aliens parents with the right to return as an adult. This leaving them behind just insures the public assistance money comes in as if you leave the US, your welfare benefits end.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-06-2017, 05:30 PM
 
7,687 posts, read 5,120,849 times
Reputation: 5482
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jonah K View Post
Considering that the "Citizenship Clause" of the 14th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution pretty much settled the issue, the Supreme Court will probably deny certiorari to any case that directly raises it. The reverent part of the 14th Amendment is as follows…
Amendment XIV, Section 1, Clause 1
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.
If it's any consolation, folks born in American Samoa (an unincorporated U.S. territory) don't necessarily get automatic U.S. citizenship at birth.
U.S. top court rejects American Samoan birthright citizenship bid | Reuters
This has been beaten to death. "Subject to the jurisdiction thereof" means here legally.

Anchors are not legit citizens
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-06-2017, 05:31 PM
 
20,524 posts, read 15,901,778 times
Reputation: 5948
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jonah K View Post
Considering that the "Citizenship Clause" of the 14th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution pretty much settled the issue, the Supreme Court will probably deny certiorari to any case that directly raises it. The reverent part of the 14th Amendment is as follows…
Amendment XIV, Section 1, Clause 1
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.
If it's any consolation, folks born in American Samoa (an unincorporated U.S. territory) don't necessarily get automatic U.S. citizenship at birth.
U.S. top court rejects American Samoan birthright citizenship bid | Reuters
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tigerlily87 View Post
I could not see them getting away with stripping citizenship retroactively, especially for adults. As well I agree that if one parent is a US citizen (mother or father are equal in this IMO, none of this citizenship of the mother stuff) they should be able to keep it.
Ireland ended birthright about 10 years ago unless at least 1 parent's an Irish citizen. The Dominican Republic yanked citizenship for people of at least part Haitian family going back to be before WW 2, which IMHO is going way too far, at least if talking about kids BORN in the DR.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-06-2017, 06:56 PM
 
Location: Kūkiʻo, HI & Manhattan Beach, CA
2,624 posts, read 7,259,689 times
Reputation: 2416
Quote:
Originally Posted by westcoastforme View Post
This has been beaten to death. "Subject to the jurisdiction thereof" means here legally.
That's a pretty zany interpretation of "subject to the jurisdiction thereof." Care to offer any statutes and cases that back it up?

Quote:
Originally Posted by westcoastforme View Post
Anchors are not legit citizens
The U.S. Constitution says otherwise.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies > Illegal Immigration

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 02:58 AM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top