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Old 05-06-2017, 12:26 PM
 
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This needs to happen to have a decision once and for all. Any anchors born to illegals will not be american citizens, but they will be citizens of their illegal parents' home country
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Old 05-06-2017, 01:57 PM
 
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This needs to happen to have a decision once and for all. Any anchors born to illegals will not be american citizens, but they will be citizens of their illegal parents' home country
I'd be Ok with that if BOTH parents were illegal aliens AND if any anchor kids above a certain age like 18 or older keep their US citizenship. But the parents would still need to go back home.
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Old 05-06-2017, 02:49 PM
 
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I'd be Ok with that if BOTH parents were illegal aliens AND if any anchor kids above a certain age like 18 or older keep their US citizenship. But the parents would still need to go back home.
I agree. Although I would make it anyone under 21 gets their anchor citizenship stripped
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Old 05-06-2017, 03:02 PM
 
Location: Kūkiʻo, HI & Manhattan Beach, CA
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This needs to happen to have a decision once and for all. Any anchors born to illegals will not be american citizens, but they will be citizens of their illegal parents' home country
Considering that the "Citizenship Clause" of the 14th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution pretty much settled the issue, the Supreme Court will probably deny certiorari to any case that directly raises it. The reverent part of the 14th Amendment is as follows…
Amendment XIV, Section 1, Clause 1
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.
If it's any consolation, folks born in American Samoa (an unincorporated U.S. territory) don't necessarily get automatic U.S. citizenship at birth.
U.S. top court rejects American Samoan birthright citizenship bid | Reuters

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Old 05-06-2017, 04:36 PM
 
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I could not see them getting away with stripping citizenship retroactively, especially for adults. As well I agree that if one parent is a US citizen (mother or father are equal in this IMO, none of this citizenship of the mother stuff) they should be able to keep it.
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Old 05-06-2017, 04:38 PM
 
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I agree. Although I would make it anyone under 21 gets their anchor citizenship stripped
This seems reasonable but possibly unattainable
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Old 05-06-2017, 05:02 PM
 
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Considering that the "Citizenship Clause" of the 14th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution pretty much settled the issue, the Supreme Court will probably deny certiorari to any case that directly raises it. The reverent part of the 14th Amendment is as follows…
Amendment XIV, Section 1, Clause 1
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.
If it's any consolation, folks born in American Samoa (an unincorporated U.S. territory) don't necessarily get automatic U.S. citizenship at birth.
U.S. top court rejects American Samoan birthright citizenship bid | Reuters
Those born to illegal aliens are subject to the same jurisdiction as their illegal alien parents, and that IS NOT the USA.

Birthright Citizenship: Two Perspectives : Publications : The Federalist Society

The 14th Amendment to the United States Constitution - Fourteenth Amendment - anchor babies birthright citizenship - interpretations and misinterpretations - US Constitution

In Under 5 Minutes, Mark Levin Debunks Anchor Baby Law - www.independentsentinel.com

Anchor babies, birthright citizenship, and the 14th Amendment | immigration resources reference issues

This is as critical as enforcing e-verify and fining employers heavily, since in the absence of a job, they just have 4 kids (a magic number for some reason) and such the teat of public assistance. The whole family gets Section 8 housing for one anchor baby and the array of welfare entitlements for that anchor, this includes the cost of the birth, not just raising and educating it. Critical that we clarify this and it is more than clear that these anchor babies are not citizens. Also, they aren't anchors and are to return with their illegal aliens parents with the right to return as an adult. This leaving them behind just insures the public assistance money comes in as if you leave the US, your welfare benefits end.
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Old 05-06-2017, 05:30 PM
 
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Considering that the "Citizenship Clause" of the 14th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution pretty much settled the issue, the Supreme Court will probably deny certiorari to any case that directly raises it. The reverent part of the 14th Amendment is as follows…
Amendment XIV, Section 1, Clause 1
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.
If it's any consolation, folks born in American Samoa (an unincorporated U.S. territory) don't necessarily get automatic U.S. citizenship at birth.
U.S. top court rejects American Samoan birthright citizenship bid | Reuters
This has been beaten to death. "Subject to the jurisdiction thereof" means here legally.

Anchors are not legit citizens
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Old 05-06-2017, 05:31 PM
 
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Considering that the "Citizenship Clause" of the 14th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution pretty much settled the issue, the Supreme Court will probably deny certiorari to any case that directly raises it. The reverent part of the 14th Amendment is as follows…
Amendment XIV, Section 1, Clause 1
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.
If it's any consolation, folks born in American Samoa (an unincorporated U.S. territory) don't necessarily get automatic U.S. citizenship at birth.
U.S. top court rejects American Samoan birthright citizenship bid | Reuters
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I could not see them getting away with stripping citizenship retroactively, especially for adults. As well I agree that if one parent is a US citizen (mother or father are equal in this IMO, none of this citizenship of the mother stuff) they should be able to keep it.
Ireland ended birthright about 10 years ago unless at least 1 parent's an Irish citizen. The Dominican Republic yanked citizenship for people of at least part Haitian family going back to be before WW 2, which IMHO is going way too far, at least if talking about kids BORN in the DR.
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Old 05-06-2017, 06:56 PM
 
Location: Kūkiʻo, HI & Manhattan Beach, CA
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This has been beaten to death. "Subject to the jurisdiction thereof" means here legally.
That's a pretty zany interpretation of "subject to the jurisdiction thereof." Care to offer any statutes and cases that back it up?

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Anchors are not legit citizens
The U.S. Constitution says otherwise.
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