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Old 05-23-2017, 04:33 PM
 
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From what I've read of studies, illegal aliens actually pay more into the system than they take out of it.
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Old 05-23-2017, 04:34 PM
 
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I've got friends in LE and a few in ICE, too.
And I have family who worked for ICE, Border Patrol and Customs
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Old 05-23-2017, 04:38 PM
 
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There is already a process to be legally here. Millions of illegals have elected not to follow it.

Why do we have an obligation to those who don't care to obey our laws?
The process has major flaws, fix them and you remove much of the problem, oh but that would not be toeing the Party Line.
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Old 05-23-2017, 05:29 PM
 
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I'm irritatingly hard to classify for people who are politically orthodox, but I consider myself mostly liberal.

On this issue, however, I am not.

Round 'em up and throw 'em out.
I am in the same boat. I want to help people out but if you are continually going to take advantage of us, get out!
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Old 05-23-2017, 07:24 PM
 
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From what I've read of studies, illegal aliens actually pay more into the system than they take out of it.
If talking about working age younger people, maybe. But their minor age Dream Act and anchor kids DO cost a LOT of money between medical bills and, having those people in public school.
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Old 05-23-2017, 07:58 PM
 
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From what I've read of studies, illegal aliens actually pay more into the system than they take out of it.
Nope.

State Cost Studies | Federation for American Immigration Reform


Which costs more: Trump’s border wall or illegal aliens?

From the above^^^^link:

A widely cited FAIR report published in 2013 claims illegal immigrants could cost taxpayers $113 billion annually, an amount adjusted to $99 billion after factoring estimated taxes paid by illegals

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No doubt that illegal aliens are parasites and thus a drain on the taxpayers.

Who do you think pays for it when they birth anchor babies? Answer: The taxpayer. I could go on as to how they are a burden. Paying for illegals and their anchor babies' births and medical care is just the tip of the iceberg.
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Old 05-23-2017, 10:24 PM
 
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Nope.

State Cost Studies | Federation for American Immigration Reform


Which costs more: Trumpís border wall or illegal aliens?

From the above^^^^link:

A widely cited FAIR report published in 2013 claims illegal immigrants could cost taxpayers $113 billion annually, an amount adjusted to $99 billion after factoring estimated taxes paid by illegals

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No doubt that illegal aliens are parasites and thus a drain on the taxpayers.

Who do you think pays for it when they birth anchor babies? Answer: The taxpayer. I could go on as to how they are a burden. Paying for illegals and their anchor babies' births and medical care is just the tip of the iceberg.
Sounds good until you consider that they would be paying far more in taxes if they were here legally under a better program than we have today, then your numbers go to hell in a hand basket.
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Old 05-24-2017, 01:39 AM
 
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Sounds good until you consider that they would be paying far more in taxes if they were here legally under a better program than we have today, then your numbers go to hell in a hand basket.
You can't honestly believe that can you? They are already a massive drain on our society, so yeah if for some unfortunate reason there was another mass amnesty they might pay more, but they'd also qualify for a lot more entitlements. There's just no way to argue that illegal aliens are financially beneficial to American tax payers.
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Old 05-24-2017, 01:42 AM
 
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I'm irritatingly hard to classify for people who are politically orthodox, but I consider myself mostly liberal.

On this issue, however, I am not.

Round 'em up and throw 'em out.
Same! In fact I'd say I'm very liberal on most other issues.

I supported Trump because my main issue is immigration, but I've been disappointed, especially on his weakness regarding the "dreamers". IMO the law is the law and all of them should be deported.
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Old 05-24-2017, 04:22 AM
 
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From what I've read of studies, illegal aliens actually pay more into the system than they take out of it.
My understanding is that the illegals cost us a couple hundred billion more per year than they pay in. Much of this is education and healthcare.
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