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Read the link I posted, you'll see. This is the antithesis of small and limited government. I hope we're all on the same page about that.
E-verify is an effective tool to weed out unauthorized workers no matter what spin the article wants to put on it. In the event that a legal worker comes up suspect it can be and is cleared up in a short period of time in most cases. Is it 100% accurate? No, but it is accurate and effective enough to use it. We have to have a means to weed out unauthorized workers as best we can.
I disagree. Why reward them for violating our immigration laws? Our immigration laws don't make exceptions nor should they. There is no way that an illegal alien hasn't committed other unlawful acts besides crossing our border illegally. We have enough productive members of our society that are honest and didn't lie or cheat to be here. Also, Americans need the jobs back that were taken from them by illegal aliens and their greedy employers. Allowing illegal aliens to remain here also negates our sane annual quotas for legal immigration.
I agree with enforcing the laws but prosecutorial discretion is a neat tool. Illegals with no criminal records generally do not pose a threat. What they need is legalization while simultaneously beefing up our immigration enforcement. We Americans have a huge heart and we will not deport the otherwise law-abiding illegals (no criminal record)
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or discuss how we can better hold greedy employers, landlords and facilitators accountable for breaking our very fair laws. There is no such thing as a non-criminal illegal. They simply can't exist here without breaking laws.
We should do that but legalize them first -- that's American compassion.
I agree with enforcing the laws but prosecutorial discretion is a neat tool. Illegals with no criminal records generally do not pose a threat. What they need is legalization while simultaneously beefing up our immigration enforcement. We Americans have a huge heart and we will not deport the otherwise law-abiding illegals (no criminal record)
We should do that but legalize them first -- that's American compassion.
Just because they haven't been caught committing a crime yet doesn't mean they aren't criminals. You do know that using a fake or stolen SS number is a crime, don't you? How are they able to work without doing that or working for cash evading taxes? How do Americans get their jobs back if they are legalized and allowed to remain here?
No, we should not legalize them because it's not fair to those who came legally and is not fair to the American worker. It's not fair to have overcrowded classrooms, jails, hospitals, roads and neighborhoods by adding them permanently to our population numbers.
Shouldn't we be compassionate and have heart for our own citizens first? Legalizing millions of illegal aliens does not do that. It does the opposite. It's an easy choice really. Should we have compassion for law breakers or our own law abiding citizens? We can't do both. Did illegal aliens show any heart or compassion for the American worker when they took their jobs? Did they show any heart or compassion by costing us $113 billion a year and the other negatives that I spoke about in my second paragraph?
I agree with enforcing the laws but prosecutorial discretion is a neat tool. Illegals with no criminal records generally do not pose a threat. What they need is legalization while simultaneously beefing up our immigration enforcement. We Americans have a huge heart and we will not deport the otherwise law-abiding illegals (no criminal record)
We should do that but legalize them first -- that's American compassion.
And where is the compassion for the many many citizens forced out of work by the illegals?
Let's do it one more time, "The Otherwise Law-Abiding Illegal Alien": The Myth of the It is a myth. If they are working, they are breaking the law, driving without a license, drunk driving, lying to get assistance, stolen identities.............. Definitely, "the cream of the crop"!
Plus, I'd rather nothing be done than some "compromise". Any amnesty is simply refilling the feeder for even more illegals.
Then, illegal immigration should not be thriving the way it is, the problem was discussing amnesty which greatly increased the flow combined with anchor baby welfare checks and other benefits.
If we secure the border and continue with the chipping away at illegal aliens as we are able to deport them, we can cut the supply down to a manageable size and then continue to work on it and get it done.
I still say, they are dependent on the anchor babies. They get WIC and food stamps to feed the family with along with any under-the-table employment. The magic "4" and they live at least 2 to 3 families to a home making all rooms bedrooms. Third world here we come!
Amnesty means allowing them to have access to welfare benefits, so working may not be as attractive and they will expect equal pay and benefits once legal making them less attractive to employers who would then hire the new illegal aliens coming in. Obviously not a solution for the American taxpayers.
Then, illegal immigration should not be thriving the way it is, the problem was discussing amnesty which greatly increased the flow combined with anchor baby welfare checks and other benefits.
If we secure the border and continue with the chipping away at illegal aliens as we are able to deport them, we can cut the supply down to a manageable size and then continue to work on it and get it done.
I still say, they are dependent on the anchor babies. They get WIC and food stamps to feed the family with along with any under-the-table employment. The magic "4" and they live at least 2 to 3 families to a home making all rooms bedrooms. Third world here we come!
Amnesty means allowing them to have access to welfare benefits, so working may not be as attractive and they will expect equal pay and benefits once legal making them less attractive to employers who would then hire the new illegal aliens coming in. Obviously not a solution for the American taxpayers.
IKE has already proven that if we make the environment hostile enough they self deport. I'm down with that.
IKE has already proven that if we make the environment hostile enough they self deport. I'm down with that.
And, I believe that is the direction that we are headed, the chipping away at it. Frankly, the stories of coming home from school and dad has been apprehended would be enough for me, if I were here illegally, to pack up the family and head home. I think many of the stories that they play for sympathy are actually working in our favor as the word gets to the illegal aliens communities.
A) Make it impossible for illegal aliens to work in the US.
B) Make it impossible for illegal aliens to get social services.
The vast majority will go back to their legal country of residence
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