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Yeah well given the current circumstances you can go one of two ways:
1) Curl up in the fetal position and cry and blame all of your woes on illegal aliens like (cough) the people on this board; or
2) Suck it up, adapt to the situation and thrive in it. Go to school and gain education or gain trade skills that a low-skill immigrant will not bring to the table. I got a bachelor's degree and an MBA. I learned another language. Now I possess skills, education and experience that make me an attractive candidate for well compensated corporate jobs. I'm confident at this point that there are no illegal aliens out there who would take my job and if there ever came a day that this happened, I'd adapt and develop a new skill that would give me a competitive advantage in the labor market.
So, you have yours to heck with everyone else. Yeah, we know the type. It is also irrelevant to the topic.
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No one on this board has blamed illegal aliens for all of their woes but it's just a fact that illegal immigration is one of the biggest problems in this country not only because of loss of jobs and reduced wages but they cost us $113 billion a year. That's no small potatoes when that money could go to help our own citizens.
Suck it up? Why such a callous remark? Americans should have the right to do any jobs they prefer and they shouldn't have to compete with illegal aliens for them. Not everyone is college material and many Americans prefer blue-collared jobs such as construction that used to pay a liveable wage. Not everyone wants to be a white collared desk jockey. Americans shouldn't have to train for jobs they aren't interested in just so illegal aliens can take over the jobs they love to do. Curious why you are so defensive of illegal aliens. Hmm.
You have explained it well. It is the law. We already know some Americans don't follow our laws or support them, we can only hope that they are not the ones working with our business affairs!
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Generally speaking, those who defend illegal aliens are either bleeding heart liberals, hire them for profit or have ethnic ties to them. It's been my observation that it's usually because they have ethnic ties to them.
You forgot slum lords, people that use illegal drugs and like the healthy market coming in from the other side of the border, immigration attorneys, Democratic candidates in their zone.......
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Nope nope and nope
and 70+% of the US population supports DACA, so you're in the minority on that issue, not me.
Ask President Clinton about polls!
As someone with an MBA certainly you aware of how things like probability and statistics work along with political polling, if not, I would guess that is where you are coming up short. Also, it would seem someone so highly educated could understand immigration law............
and 70+% of the US population supports DACA, so you're in the minority on that issue, not me.
Why would any American desire something that doesn't serve their interests? That's 800,000 jobs that won't go to Americans. It makes no sense.
May I ask why you support DACA since you said it is none of the above? Those three reasons are the only ones that I know of other than one being a DACA themselves. We've already shared with you why we don't support it.
The real way to stop illegals from coming over and "taking our jobs" is to punish the people that are hiring them. Make it to where every undocumented worker found in a person's employ is a 100k fine. Any cost savings they made by hiring them will be offset by the fines, so they will have no motivation to do so. And the illegals will stop coming over because nobody will hire them, as it's too big of a risk, so the demand for them will go down.
Illegals use stolen identification, and it would look legitimate when someone tries to run a background check.
Illegals use stolen identification, and it would look legitimate when someone tries to run a background check.
It is all one big false propaganda machine. If you do a Google search for picture of dreamers with DACA; you will get pictures of young children an mothers. Of course there are many teachers marching in the groups supporting DACA. I have to ask myself why would our schools rally around illegal immigrants? Would this be because it requires more teachers and more bureaucracy? Would it be because it is self-serving - regardless if it hurts our Country or not? We also have our politicians that feel many of the DACA parents and supporters will guarantee their reelection.
By the way; you never see pictures of MS13 in the pictures of those 'Dreamers'. But I would almost guarantee that some of that group of 800,000 brought in problems like gangs and drugs. I would also bet that many have no intention to follow our laws because they were brought into our Country by parents that set the example by braking our laws.
So, you have yours to heck with everyone else. Yeah, we know the type. It is also irrelevant to the topic.
You have explained it well. It is the law. We already know some Americans don't follow our laws or support them, we can only hope that they are not the ones working with our business affairs!
You forgot slum lords, people that use illegal drugs and like the healthy market coming in from the other side of the border, immigration attorneys, Democratic candidates in their zone.......
Ask President Clinton about polls!
As someone with an MBA certainly you aware of how things like probability and statistics work along with political polling, if not, I would guess that is where you are coming up short. Also, it would seem someone so highly educated could understand immigration law............
This article explains it pretty well. I'm aware of polling error but not dumb enough to think that because it exists that polling thus is useless/has no value.
It is all one big false propaganda machine. If you do a Google search for picture of dreamers with DACA; you will get pictures of young children an mothers. Of course there are many teachers marching in the groups supporting DACA. I have to ask myself why would our schools rally around illegal immigrants? Would this be because it requires more teachers and more bureaucracy? Would it be because it is self-serving - regardless if it hurts our Country or not? We also have our politicians that feel many of the DACA parents and supporters will guarantee their reelection.
By the way; you never see pictures of MS13 in the pictures of those 'Dreamers'. But I would almost guarantee that some of that group of 800,000 brought in problems like gangs and drugs. I would also bet that many have no intention to follow our laws because they were brought into our Country by parents that set the example by braking our laws.
For most who defend illegal immigration and want amnesty for illegal aliens it Is a self-serving agenda. Just depends on what their agenda is. Only perhaps in the case of bleeding heart liberals that it might be the exception and that's only because they only think with emotion not with their brains.
For most who defend illegal immigration and want amnesty for illegal aliens it Is a self-serving agenda. Just depends on what their agenda is. Only perhaps in the case of bleeding heart liberals that it might be the exception and that's only because they only think with emotion not with their brains.
More nonsense from the unthinking right. I have no stake of any sort in the matter and have no compunctions whatsoever about deporting illegal aliens. I don't support deporting Dreamers simply because they are basically Americans and we have already paid the cost of raising and educating them.
The issue is simply that deporting them is hopelessly impractical. Cost too much. Takes too long. Lacks support from the citizenry. And could unleash massive social unrest.
And there is no real possibility of even making the attempt. The various special interest groups will simply block it up.
Illegals use stolen identification, and it would look legitimate when someone tries to run a background check.
I'll agree that some do that, and it's very hard to detect, but it's not always the case. I'm talking more about punishing people who hire them under the table and don't even bother to try and verify their citizenship. All they care about is cheap labor and undercutting American workers, and that needs to be stopped. There are more important things to think about when making a decision than "What's this gonna cost". They'll stab their fellow Americans in the back to save a nickel, and they deserve NO sympathy for it.
For most who defend illegal immigration and want amnesty for illegal aliens it Is a self-serving agenda. Just depends on what their agenda is. Only perhaps in the case of bleeding heart liberals that it might be the exception and that's only because they only think with emotion not with their brains.
Strange because I feel exactly the same about the anti-immigrant torch and pitchfork nation folk. You think with your emotions and all logic/reason gets thrown right out the window.
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