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Old 09-22-2017, 10:51 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Well their idea is that the Americans who now work those low skilled jobs that the immigrants would take would somehow be able to move up and make better money for themselves but we all know that it does not work like that in the real world.

The Dems think that there is enough in America for everyone to have a slice but outside of DC, California and NYC that is not the case.

The Dems need to change their strategy so it places more concern on the citizens and legal immigrants that are already here.
There isn't enough in California for everyone to have a slice. California has 12% of the US population, but 34% of the US population on welfare. Why they want even more poverty truly stumps me.
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Old 09-22-2017, 11:27 AM
 
Location: Metro Washington DC
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No Clinton did not. More right wing myth. Dozens of cites she did not. Here are a couple.

Donald Trump says Hillary Clinton wants to have open borders | PolitiFact

Trump misrepresents Clinton’s position on 'open borders' - POLITICO

Donald Trump's claim that Hillary Clinton wants 'open borders' doesn't hold up - LA Times

She had a clear campaign statement on immigration that called for a solution involving some path to for those present as well as a heavy increase to border security.
Those links don’t necessarily refute what I think, but if she was not for that then she did an awful job explaining what she wanted.
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Old 09-22-2017, 11:53 AM
 
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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Those links don’t necessarily refute what I think, but if she was not for that then she did an awful job explaining what she wanted.
Nope. The right wing quotes a paragraph from a WikiLeaks document that is purportedly excerpted from a wall street speech. Her actual writings and speeches are quite clear.
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Old 09-22-2017, 11:55 AM
 
Location: Cape Cod
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There isn't enough in California for everyone to have a slice. California has 12% of the US population, but 34% of the US population on welfare. Why they want even more poverty truly stumps me.


I know, it just does not make any sense. It seems like the elected have drunk heavy of the Liberal Kool Aide and they think that it will all turn out for the better if they continue to give sanctuary to the masses of illegal aliens who are low skilled, not educated and don't speak the common language of English.
What could go wrong?


It seems that the elected of California and the people who put them in power are fine with their state becoming a huge social experiment but when it fails they will have no choice to come back to the Federal Gov. for a bailout and we will all be forced to pay up to help them out of the mess they created.

It is very admirable to open your arms and wallet to help the poor people of the world but you have to be sure to hold on to enough for yourself. The Liberal Dems seem to have forgotten about the part called the future.


So why are the Dems so keen on helping illegal aliens that do very little but place a drain on our society.
It has to be the future votes, what else can it be?
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Old 09-22-2017, 12:33 PM
 
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It's a known fact that some illegal aliens have voted though. The Democrats are mostly pandering for the Hispanic-American vote. It is they that are demanding amnesty for illegal aliens since most here illegally are Hispanics.
It should be easy for you to provide evidence of this known fact, right?
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Old 09-22-2017, 01:11 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Most likely Obama was put into office with the illegal voting. They don't want to get rid of those illegals..
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Old 09-22-2017, 02:18 PM
 
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No , it isnt. There was 1 lady who voted and had a green card out of 120m+. Yeah a known fact

Here's a fact for you.


BREAKING: Thousand of Illegal Aliens Registered to Vote in THIS STATE!
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Old 09-22-2017, 03:31 PM
 
Location: Florida & Cebu, Philippines
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Dems do not care about what is legal, if illegals were voting Republican then they would be screaming so loud you would hear it on the moon.

Signs like this should be up in every polling place as a start to curb voter fraud, then no one could say they did not know any better.
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Old 09-22-2017, 03:39 PM
 
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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Dems do not care about what is legal, if illegals were voting Republican then they would be screaming so loud you would hear it on the moon.

Signs like this should be up in every polling place as a start to curb voter fraud, then no one could say they did not know any better.
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The famous first case of this was in S. FL where the violators were in fact mostly legal Cubans who would mostly vote Republican. No huge outcry.
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Old 09-22-2017, 05:01 PM
 
Location: Florida & Cebu, Philippines
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The famous first case of this was in S. FL where the violators were in fact mostly legal Cubans who would mostly vote Republican. No huge outcry.
What part of legal, do you mean they were green card holders, if so and they voted then as far as I am concerned they need to be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

I ran a gun and pawn shop for some years and saw many a green card holder who also had a voter registration card, so I know for a fact that they do exist and that they must vote.
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