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Old 03-17-2008, 08:19 PM
 
Location: The Lakes Region
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I just received this in an email. What are your views on all of this? I hope I didn't violate any rules here, I tried to follow the link and copyright rules, etc.

The media skews things (both ways) and we need to read everything we can to make the best voting decision at this critical time in our history.

What costs more per year than the Iraq War?


Included are the URLs for verification of the following facts:

1. $11 Billion to $22 Billion is spent on welfare to illegal aliens each year http://tinyurl.com/zob77

2. $2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens Center for Immigration Studies


3. $2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for illegal aliens.
[http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html

4. $12 Billion dollars a year is spent on primary and secondary school education for children here illegally and they cannot speak a word ofEnglish
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.0.html (broken link)

5. $17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for the American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

6. $3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal aliens.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

7. 30% percent of all Federal Prison inmates are illegal aliens.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

8. $90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on illegal aliens for Welfare and Social Services by the American taxpayers.
http://premium.cnn.com/TRANSCIPTS/0610/29/ldt.01.html (broken link)

9. $200 Billion Dollars a year in suppressed American wages are caused by the illegal aliens. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html


10. The illegal aliens in the United States have a crime rate that's two-and-a-half times that of white non-illegal aliens.. In particular, their children, are going to make a huge additional crime problem in the US
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0606/12/ldt.01.html

11. During the year of 2005 there were 4 to 10 MILLION illegal aliens that crossed our Southern Border also, as many as 19,500 illegal aliens from Terrorist Countries. Millions of pounds of drugs, cocaine, meth, heroin and marijuana, crossed into the U.S. from the Southern border. Homeland Security Report.
http://tinyurl.com/t9sht

12. The National Policy Institute, 'estimated that the total cost of mass deportation would be between $206 and $230 billion or an average cost of between $41 and $46 billion annually over a five year period.'http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute.org/pdf/deportation.pdf
13. In 2006 illegal aliens sent home $45 BILLION in remittances back to their countries of origin.
http://www.rense.com/general75/niht.html

14. 'The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration: Nearly One Million Sex Crimes Committed by Illegal Immigrants In The United States
http://www.drdsk.com/articles.html#Illegals
Dr. Deborah Schurman-Kauflin, Violent Crimes Institute
Dr. Deborah Schurman-Kauflin, Violent Crimes Institute

Total cost is a whopping $338.3 BILLION A YEAR!

Snopes is provided for doubters:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/immigration/bankofamerica.asp

The United StatesSenate voted to extend Social Security Benefits to illegal aliens beginning in 2008. The following are the senators who voted to give illegal aliens Social Security benefits. They are grouped by home state. If a state is not listed, there was no voting representative.
Arizona : McCain (R)
Arkansas : Lincoln (D) Pryor (D)
California : Boxer (D) Feinstein (D)
Colorado: Salazar (D)
Connecticut: Dodd (D) Lieberman (D)
Delaware : Biden (D) Carper (D)
Florida : Martinez (R)
Hawaii : Akaka (D) Inouye (D)
Illinois : Durbin (D)Obama (D)
Indiana: Bayh (D) Lugar (R)
Iowa : Harkin (D)
Kansas : Brownback (R)
Louisiana: Landrieu (D)
Maryland : Mikulski (D) Sarbanes (D)
Massachusetts : Kennedy (D) Kerry (D)
Montana: Baucus (D)
Nebraska : Hagel (R)
Nevada: Reid (D)
New Jersey: Lautenberg (D) Menendez (D)
New Mexico : Bingaman (D)
New York : Clinton (D)Schumer (D)
North Dakota : Dorgan (D)
Ohio : DeWine (R) Voinovich(R)
Oregon : Wyden (D)
Pennsylvania : Specter (R)
Rhode Island : Chafee (R) Reed (D)
South Carolina : Graham (R)
South Dakota : Johnson (D)
Vermont : Jeffords (I) Leahy (D)
Washington: Cantwell (D) Murray (D)
West Virginia : Rockefeller (D), by Not Voting
Wisconsin : Feingold (D) Kohl (D)

THE ENTIRE POPULATION OF THE UNITED STATES NEEDS TO KNOW THIS INFORMATION, UNLESS THEY DON'T MIND SHARING THEIR SOCIAL SECURITY WITH FOREIGN WORKERS who didn't pay in a dime.
The Dems will give away America for some votes........What trash.....

Carrie
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Old 03-17-2008, 08:20 PM
 
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I highly doubt any illegal immigrant will willingly tell a random person that they are illegal.
LOL, so true!
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Old 03-17-2008, 09:19 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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$22 billion from $338 billion still leaves $316 billion being spent for lawbreakers...
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Old 03-17-2008, 09:28 PM
 
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$22 billion from $338 billion still leaves $316 billion being spent for lawbreakers...
Agreed. But I just wanted to clarify that statement because I don't want to knowingly post false information. I did go back and read through most of the others and so far what they said was all true.
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Old 03-17-2008, 09:55 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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The Dems will give away America for some votes........What trash.....

Carrie
For the record: both Houses of Congress and the White House were controlled by the Republican Party 2001-06------and; during that time we were inundated by illegal immigrants.

I am ready to give the Dems a chance this fall-------this coming from one angry Republican.
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Old 03-18-2008, 06:08 AM
 
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Agreed. But I just wanted to clarify that statement because I don't want to knowingly post false information. I did go back and read through most of the others and so far what they said was all true.
most of what you posted was false, but i don't feel like going through all of them.
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Old 03-18-2008, 06:15 AM
 
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i debunked some of what you posted in this old thread.

http://www.city-data.com/forum/immig...more-than.html
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Old 03-18-2008, 09:20 AM
 
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most of what you posted was false, but i don't feel like going through all of them.
Actually no they are not, I already went through them. But thanks for the heads up on the one! But I think that the post threads should be one, since there is no sense in this being discussed on two different threads. My bad for not realizing it was already posted.

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Old 03-18-2008, 09:28 AM
 
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You haven't included the costs of displaced Americans that now live in poverty. They apply for social welfare and add to social costs too. There are up to 40,000,000 US citizens in this country living below the poverty line most of whom would jump at an opportunity to earn a decent wage.. and they would pay their taxes at a higher rate of incidence meaning more revenue for the government and would also spend their money here in this country instead of sending it out of the country. Oh there's all kinds of intrinsic reasons to end illegal immigration.
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Old 03-18-2008, 09:40 AM
 
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i debunked some of what you posted in this old thread.

http://www.city-data.com/forum/immig...more-than.html
OOPS! I didn't realize that someone had already posted this info before. Seems a bit redundant to have it in two threads. Perhaps the mods could combine them both.

I already conceeded on the one point you made, you were correct, it was about immigrants, not ILLEGAL immgrants. However, I've gone through the others and they seem spot on.

However, I do think it's important to stress that illegal immigrants come from many different countries, not just Mexico!

For example: According to the Federation For American Immigration Reform, there are thousands from many countires here illeagally. These are old numbers, if anyone has an update, please add it. Thanks!

The nationalities of the illegal alien population in the Census Bureau estimate and INS estimate for 2000 are as follow:

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