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Old 10-21-2017, 07:59 PM
 
Location: Virginia
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The law is flatly unenforceable. It is in the same class as the Congress passing a law that the Sun is forbidden to rise. The old sun is not going to pay any attention.

Try it the other way. All you guys got to do is get the Congress to pass a budget for ICE big enough to enforce the law. Try it and get educated.
Lol you wish. Tell it to the people we've already deported.
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Old 10-21-2017, 08:06 PM
 
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The law is flatly unenforceable. It is in the same class as the Congress passing a law that the Sun is forbidden to rise. The old sun is not going to pay any attention.

Try it the other way. All you guys got to do is get the Congress to pass a budget for ICE big enough to enforce the law. Try it and get educated.
The law has been on the books for decades and it is and will be enforced. What do you suggest? We continue two sets of standards? One for citizens and lawful residents and one for illegals?
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Old 10-21-2017, 08:28 PM
 
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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Lol you wish. Tell it to the people we've already deported.
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The law has been on the books for decades and it is and will be enforced. What do you suggest? We continue two sets of standards? One for citizens and lawful residents and one for illegals?
The law is unenforceable and has been for decades, You folk don't understand that most of these people have been here over 10 years?

I suggest we fix the problem. Now. And that means legalization for many. Should not have happened. We screwed up. But now we need to fix it.
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Old 10-21-2017, 09:30 PM
 
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Lol you wish. Tell it to the people we've already deported.
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The law has been on the books for decades and it is and will be enforced. What do you suggest? We continue two sets of standards? One for citizens and lawful residents and one for illegals?
Agreed and the truth sometimes hurts, especially with illegal aliens really starting to freak out since Trump was sworn in as POTUS.
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Old 10-21-2017, 10:29 PM
 
Location: Virginia
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The law is unenforceable and has been for decades, You folk don't understand that most of these people have been here over 10 years?

I suggest we fix the problem. Now. And that means legalization for many. Should not have happened. We screwed up. But now we need to fix it.
All laws get broken by lots of people, so should we do away with all laws? Stupid and laughable excuse.
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Old 10-21-2017, 11:02 PM
 
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I suggest we fix the problem. Now. And that means legalization for many. Should not have happened. We screwed up. But now we need to fix it.
No, it doesn't mean legalization. I suggest we deport them.
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Old 10-22-2017, 07:26 AM
 
Location: Kansas
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In general the DACA recipients are not in a position to change their status. There are a limited number of hardship cases but that is it for most.

I would expect that the children of Dreamers will virtually all remain in the states or return to it when they reach school age. The Dreamers are basically assimilated. They are not going to raise their children outside the states. Many if not most will be able to arrange it through citizen family members. Likely lots of welfare will be involved.
Of course the Dreamers will want to leave their kids here, that will continue the public assistance to them. When one has children to try to anchor themselves or use them to get public assistance, there is no reason to take them with you. Lots of welfare is already involved, you know push out 4 anchors and live off of them!

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Originally Posted by lvmensch View Post
The law is flatly unenforceable. It is in the same class as the Congress passing a law that the Sun is forbidden to rise. The old sun is not going to pay any attention.

Try it the other way. All you guys got to do is get the Congress to pass a budget for ICE big enough to enforce the law. Try it and get educated.
Didn't you see in the referenced/linked article:

"But according to Immigration and Customs Enforcement figures, there was an increase in “non-criminal” arrests between January 22 and April 29 compared to the same period in 2016, around 10,800 in 2017 to 4,200 in 2016."

Number Of Immigrants Without Criminal Records Arrested By ICE Triples In New England | WBUR News I could list more, but "facts" don't see to sway your opinion!

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The law is unenforceable and has been for decades, You folk don't understand that most of these people have been here over 10 years?

I suggest we fix the problem. Now. And that means legalization for many. Should not have happened. We screwed up. But now we need to fix it.
Please see above. Also, "smart" illegal aliens are self-deporting as they don't want to end up arrested and/or separated from their families. You know it doesn't say much for someone that would dump their kids if they didn't provide them an anchor, what kind of lower form animals even do something like that, abandon their families as a burden, not the best for sure. They should be ashamed and not announcing it in the news. School yard "Hey, look, there's Maria. Did you see on the news that her illegal parents are going to leave her behind if they are deported?".

We are fixing the problem of these 3rd world squatters by enforcing the law, see above.

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All laws get broken by lots of people, so should we do away with all laws? Stupid and laughable excuse.
No, they wish to "pick and choose" which laws should be enforced.

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No, it doesn't mean legalization. I suggest we deport them.
Seriously, isn't it sad that we have to "suggest" or "demand" that they enforce of the laws of our country?
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Old 10-22-2017, 07:34 AM
 
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No, it doesn't mean legalization. I suggest we deport them.
It wasn't "we" the people who screwed up anyway. It was negligence on the part of our government and "we" aren't going to pay for it. Since they screwed up they owe "us" by deporting these illegal aliens either voluntarily or involuntarily. Nothing less is a slap in the face to "us".
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Old 10-22-2017, 07:45 AM
 
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This article is yet another sob story. The MSM keeps churning them out with the hope that they might find just the right sob story that will have every reader crying over the fate of the DACAs. Oh, gimme a break!

I love how the author lies about the DACAs' kids. From the article:

With the cancellation of the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program, an estimated 200,000 children are at risk of losing their parents.

^^^^What a bald faced lie! If these DACAs are decent parents, they would take their kids with them when they get deported. That's what any decent parent would do. No one is forcing them to leave their kids behind.

Also, these DACAs are now demanding that their law breaking parents get to remain here also. So here we go, if the DACAs had their way those who have U.S. born kids are demanding that they get to remain here with their kids and that the DACAs parents get to remain here also. This will entail a full blown amnesty of millions of illegal aliens. WTH?
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Old 10-22-2017, 08:53 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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These DACA are NOT assimilated.... their kids are in ESL. They only tend to talk to others in their communities, they don't mingle much with "outsiders" ......

Part of the issue is the ESL (at least in the school I drive for) is SEPARATED from the rest of the school. They are in their own corridor, they eat and wait for the busses in their own little group.

HOW is that assimilated?

I'm sorry ESL needs to be done away with. The parents MUST be able to at least communicate with the rest of society and the kids need to be mainstreamed into the schools, forced to graduate in ENGLISH. They are ALLOWED to graduate in SPANISH.

And ESL should NOT be classified as Special needs!
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