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Old 01-14-2018, 08:38 PM
 
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El Paso was never a big crime problem. In fact the trustworthy numbers never really moved. Look at the murder rate...same before and after the fencing. And rapes have gone up.

And of course there are places where a wall makes sense...San Diego and El Paso both being good examples. Though the wall in general should be made as unobtrusive as possible.

So no the wall had no real effect on violent crime in El Paso. El Paso is also relatively low on crime while having a very high illegal immigrant population.
Stats revealed in this column documented a tremendous reduction in crime after the wall went up, versus prior.
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Old 01-14-2018, 08:39 PM
 
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It's a see-thru fence and not a wall. You know the difference right?
Holds out the illegals. That's what matters.
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Old 01-14-2018, 08:45 PM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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.......... We have a LEGAL immigration policy and they should use it.
That's actually the problem. There is no line for Mexicans to get into. They simply cannot get in legally.

Unauthorized immigrants who want to regularize their status in this country cannot just “get in line.” There are lines, but a large number of aspiring immigrants are not eligible to be in any of them.
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Old 01-14-2018, 08:51 PM
 
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If the southern states want a wall, then they should pay for it. Why should the rest of us pay.
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Old 01-14-2018, 08:53 PM
 
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That's how it should be. Being granted the privilege of US citizenship should be merit based. Those with superb skills will, no doubt, find an employer willing to sponsor them coming to America.

Those w/o skills are better off in their own, less well developed nations, where they can compete with other unskilled workers.
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Old 01-14-2018, 09:00 PM
 
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Stats revealed in this column documented a tremendous reduction in crime after the wall went up, versus prior.
Nope. Murder rate the same...rapes up.
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Old 01-14-2018, 09:03 PM
 
Location: In The Thin Air
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Open border is what libs truly want.

In November, 2016 patriots fought back to insure libs failed in their quest.

MAGA
Some of you keep saying the libs want open borders but you never provide a source to that.
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Old 01-14-2018, 09:31 PM
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Location: Here.
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If the southern states want a wall, then they should pay for it. Why should the rest of us pay.
If North Korea invades your state, I don’t see why my state should have to help defend you.
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Old 01-14-2018, 09:32 PM
 
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If North Korea invades your state, I don’t see why my state should have to help defend you.
I don't either.
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Old 01-14-2018, 10:09 PM
 
Location: Brusssels
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If the southern states want a wall, then they should pay for it. Why should the rest of us pay.
The thing is, they don't because they already have one.
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