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Old 02-07-2018, 05:54 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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We don't have to physically deport all the DACAs all at once or their parents. Just let the program end and remove all of the incentives for them to remain here. Many if not most will self-deport. Your plan is starting at a point of weakness not strength by granting residency to them without making them return to their homelands and applying to come back legally. We've been down this road before and amnesty has just made the problem worse as it encouraged more to come here. I do agree with your points 1-5 however and nothing less than that.
Kids who have lived here all their lives, are not simply going just going to self deport. They only know life in the US. Remember, we, (as in our government), told them to come here, we said we will give them free in-state tuition, free K-12 education, drivers licenses, and on and on.

Once we have passed new laws and control our immigration, then you can be tough and boot them
out
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Old 02-07-2018, 06:16 PM
 
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Kids who have lived here all their lives, are not simply going just going to self deport. They only know life in the US. Remember, we, (as in our government), told them to come here, we said we will give them free in-state tuition, free K-12 education, drivers licenses, and on and on.

Once we have passed new laws and control our immigration, then you can be tough and boot them
out

No, our government did not tell them to come here nor did our government tell them they'd get a bunch of freebies either. They were just lax in our border security. What new laws are you talking about? It will still be against the law to come here illegally.


If they have no means to support themselves then why wouldn't they leave? If we go after their parents the DACAs will follow them back to their homelands.
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Old 02-07-2018, 09:07 PM
 
Location: Sputnik Planitia
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The entire country is coming to a standstill seriously affecting our commerce, our markets, our citizens to cater to the needs of illegal aliens. Our citizens have been relagated to third class status by these Democrats. This is really an outrage.
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Old 02-08-2018, 01:26 AM
miu
 
Location: MA/NH
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And what is being done to prevent the making of future DACAs? Send them all back to where they belong. Their parents can help with the transition back to their rightful home country. Of course they can speak the language, how else have they been communicating with their parents since birth?

And so what if they don't want to go from living in a First World country to a Third World country? That is all their parents' fault for bringing them to the US illegally.

The Dems have got to stop with this DACA stuff. Real Americans first, and that includes the Native Americans and the black community with all of their problems that need solving first.
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Old 02-08-2018, 04:50 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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The entire country is coming to a standstill seriously affecting our commerce, our markets, our citizens, to cater to the needs of illegal aliens. Our citizens have been relagated to third class status by these Democrats. This is really an outrage.
Important FACT to remember when we vote in November 2018 and 2020.
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Old 02-08-2018, 04:52 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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And what is being done to prevent the making of future DACAs? Send them all back to where they belong. Their parents can help with the transition back to their rightful home country. Of course they can speak the language, how else have they been communicating with their parents since birth?

And so what if they don't want to go from living in a First World country to a Third World country? That is all their parents' fault for bringing them to the US illegally.

The Dems have got to stop with this DACA stuff. Real Americans first, and that includes the Native Americans and the black community with all of their problems that need solving first.
100% agree!
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Old 02-08-2018, 05:08 AM
 
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Can you really say that a five or ten old year child is guilty of "not playing by the rules?"

I see your point, I really do. I have been of the mind before to send the parents back where they came from, and take their kids with them. After all, the parents had no trouble tearing the kids from the only home they have ever known, and forcing them to leave their friends, classmates behind, to sneak into the USA, a country where their children didn't speak the language or know the culture.

However, before we do anything we need to:
End anchor babies. End chain migration. Define once and for all exactly who is, and who is not a US citizen at birth.

No child born in the USA should be given citizenship or residency status that is above that held by their parents.

If the mother is on a visiting visa from Russia, and they mother gives birth in our hospital, then the child has a visiting visa. Bye, bye anchor baby Russian vacation packages.

If the parents have temporary or permanent US residency status, so does their new baby. By that same note, once the parents gain US citizenship, so do their minor children.

And if the parents overstayed a visa or snuck across the US border, their child born in a US hospital is an illegal alien too.

Once we do that all of that, I'll give the DACA children a break with temporary status, since they had no control over the crimes of their parents.

Plus, to give these children permanent status, and forbid them from ever applying for US citizenship, I think we would create a unique and ostracized class of people.
"Can you really say that a five or ten old year child is guilty of "not playing by the rules?""

I can.

There is NO difference, in my mind, between a drug dealer or a wall street crook who makes tons of money and buys the Cadillac Escalade,the big house, all the golds jewelry, etc and when gets caught his family does NOT get to keep all the goodies he bought.

ALL of it is confiscated. because the law say the family CANNOT keep things obtained through ill gotten means.

The parents broke our laws and CONTINUED to do so EVERY DAY THERE WERE HERE.

The children should NOT be the benefit of things obtained through ill gotten means.

Plain and simile.
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Old 02-08-2018, 07:43 AM
 
Location: Kansas
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"Can you really say that a five or ten old year child is guilty of "not playing by the rules?""

I can.

There is NO difference, in my mind, between a drug dealer or a wall street crook who makes tons of money and buys the Cadillac Escalade,the big house, all the golds jewelry, etc and when gets caught his family does NOT get to keep all the goodies he bought.

ALL of it is confiscated. because the law say the family CANNOT keep things obtained through ill gotten means.

The parents broke our laws and CONTINUED to do so EVERY DAY THERE WERE HERE.

The children should NOT be the benefit of things obtained through ill gotten means.

Plain and simile.
Exactly! Why reward the children of illegal aliens who are illegal aliens themselves and punish the children of citizens?

This also punishes the children whose parents are waiting in line to come to the US legally, as they are not getting their free education in American taxpayer funded schools, and hang in limbo waiting.
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Old 02-08-2018, 09:34 PM
miu
 
Location: MA/NH
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Exactly! Why reward the children of illegal aliens who are illegal aliens themselves and punish the children of citizens?

This also punishes the children whose parents are waiting in line to come to the US legally, as they are not getting their free education in American taxpayer funded schools, and hang in limbo waiting.
This also punishes the children of Americans. The Boston schools are hurting for funds... and burdened with having to deal with trying to teach children whose first language is NOT English!!! Apparently 50% of all public school students in the Boston area are not fluent in English.

We need to make English the official language of America. And offering public services in any language other than English is only enabling the non-English speakers to continue with not learning English. My tax dollars should not be funding this nonsense.
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Old 02-09-2018, 12:44 PM
 
Location: Kansas
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I know for awhile, there was a "skills" requirement for entering kindergarten. I believe any child entering kindergarten should be proficient in English to the level of the majority of those entering kindergarten. Non-English speaking children cost a bundle to educate, and with the loss of so many jobs and our tax base, we can't provide for the rest of the world anymore.

Send them home.
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