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Old 02-04-2018, 04:54 PM
 
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They had to go through places like Ellis Island with background, and medical checks. Immigration is a LEGAL process. Their are no "illegal immigrants". They had an extensive process that was mandated by law, even back then.
Hardly. Know your history. My ancestors came through Castle Gardens (The Battery) before Ellis Island was opened in the 1890's to accommodate the massive waves of immigrants, which were mostly Italians at that time. Extensive testing was if they were sick and carried a contagious disease. Papers? NO. You have a 3 month Visa to work here in US in the 1890's???? Hey, ya wanna buy a bridge? Ok, it probably was a plus if they could say they had a relative here, but that was about it. NONE of my ancestors did and they still were allowed to stay. Maybe because they spoke the QUEEN'S English in the 1880's?

The majority of your "papers" didn't happen until the 1920's; probably as a backlash against so many "dirty" immigrants coming to America's shores. Every wave of immigrants had their own backlash; Irish, Germans, Jews, Chinese, Italians, et al. It is nothing new what is happening today. Ask anyone who knows history and has done extensive genealogy.
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Old 02-04-2018, 04:56 PM
 
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The Statue of Liberty came to NY Harbor in 1885. What were the immigration laws in the late 19th Century, or even early 20th Century? Passports, Visas, Green Cards? All those millions of immigrants coming to the US back then, let alone before, had them?

Exactly who would have been an "illegal" immigrant? A stowaway on a ship who didn't pay his passage?
Back then immigrants had to support themselves upon arrival. They were not a drag on society. Now on average they cost untold billions beyond any contribution they make. The highly educated/skilled carry their own weight as do the wealthy, but the peasant class which far outnumbers them has hurt us badly.
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Old 02-06-2018, 11:52 AM
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The Statue of Liberty came to NY Harbor in 1885. What were the immigration laws in the late 19th Century, or even early 20th Century? Passports, Visas, Green Cards? All those millions of immigrants coming to the US back then, let alone before, had them?

Exactly who would have been an "illegal" immigrant? A stowaway on a ship who didn't pay his passage?

What were women's rights in the late 19th Century, or even early 20th Century? Since you like living in the past, which has nothing to do with current populations, jobs, or anything else, let's go back there, shall we?
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Old 02-06-2018, 02:31 PM
 
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Hardly. Know your history. My ancestors came through Castle Gardens (The Battery) before Ellis Island was opened in the 1890's to accommodate the massive waves of immigrants, which were mostly Italians at that time. Extensive testing was if they were sick and carried a contagious disease. Papers? NO. You have a 3 month Visa to work here in US in the 1890's???? Hey, ya wanna buy a bridge? Ok, it probably was a plus if they could say they had a relative here, but that was about it. NONE of my ancestors did and they still were allowed to stay. Maybe because they spoke the QUEEN'S English in the 1880's?

The majority of your "papers" didn't happen until the 1920's; probably as a backlash against so many "dirty" immigrants coming to America's shores. Every wave of immigrants had their own backlash; Irish, Germans, Jews, Chinese, Italians, et al. It is nothing new what is happening today. Ask anyone who knows history and has done extensive genealogy.

You're discussing legal immigrants in the illegal immigration forum though. There is another forum for discussing legal immigration.
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Old 02-06-2018, 07:19 PM
 
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I guess he doesn't want to apply for citizenship. It takes too long.
There. Right there you said it. He obviously doesn't respect our laws. Plenty of other people do it the right way, but we're supposed to give your buddy a pass? ok bro, whatever you say.

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I think he'll be safe in NY or NJ because they are sanctuary states but Trump has raised fears all over the world.
Good, then what he's doing is working.
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