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Old 01-28-2018, 02:38 PM
Location: Kansas
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Originally Posted by HockeyMac18 View Post
I linked 4 polls, all recent.

Do you know how statistics works? Sampling is very valid, and has been shown to work for centuries (within an error range, of course).

You want to use 2016 to discredit all of polling science? You should know where the polls broke down - they were slightly off in a few states, and in a winner-take-all EC election, that is a really big deal.

The national vote totals, however, were very close to predicted, well within the statistical error rates.

What you're implying here is that these polls are off by 30-40%. That is absurd. Other than you wanting it to be different, what is your reasoning for believing this?

Polls show you're in the minority of Trump voters. Your welcome to your beliefs, just know it is not representative.

Poll: Two-thirds of Republicans back citizenship for DACA recipients | TheHill

I had a college course in "Statistics and Probability" so yes, I know how they worked, emphasis on "worked" not work. Let's move out of what worked for centuries, this is a new age: https://www.usnews.com/news/the-repo...gly-inaccurate and https://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/21/o...h-polling.html and https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...=.3f99df48f09b and https://www.nolabels.org/blog/presidential-polling/ and The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly of Public Opinion Polling

Polls generally reflect what the person paying for the polling wants them to reflect.

The Hill article: CBS news poll Jan 13 - 16 2018.
Your 2nd article is again the same CBS poll of 1225 adults.
3rd: 2,177 adults, 37% Democrats, 31% Republicans, 28% Independent and 4% Other. Sept 17 through 20. In this same survey, 70% said police should check immigration status and cooperate with ICE.
Your 3rd link from April 2017 was online, I believe that is the least reliable of all forms of survey/polling. I learned about this while examining the presidential polling: https://www.surveymonkey.com/curiosi...ponses-survey/

It is funny though, I don't actually know anyone who wants to see the Dreamers anything other than gone, of course, we are surrounded by the plague that illegal aliens are, so our opinions may differ from those who just read the news, we live it. Send them home, the Dems won't agree on this unless we have an insecure border and allow chain migration to assure every single illegal alien stays in the country as we slip into 3rd world status, and women are safe no where! (Look at rape statistics)

Old 01-28-2018, 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by LauraC View Post
Q: Why then did he refuse to run for re-election? A: Because he knew he couldn't win. But then, he has delusions of grandeur. He doesn't think he can win in Arizona but throws out there that he might run for President.
Because state Republicans have taken absence of their common sense.

Jeff Flake isnít some Johnny Come Lately. If heís such a big RINO, how did he win his Congressional seat and THEN a senate seat?

Thereís only one reason Republicans are talking this RINO nonsense...heís opposed to Donald Trump!

Of course, you knew that.
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