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Old 02-01-2018, 04:44 PM
 
Location: Kansas
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Got another one! This one had been repatriated 5 times, and just served 4 months in federal prison for illegal re-entry. These illegals are coming into the country on the run from crimes they have committed in their own countries, probably one reason that they don't come in the right way, they are in a BIG hurry!

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Old 02-01-2018, 09:24 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas/SF Peninsula/South Lake Tahoe
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Build the WALL. If only to save one American life, build the Wall.
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Old 02-02-2018, 05:45 AM
 
Location: Florida & Cebu, Philippines
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5 times, we need to build the wall if for no other reason, to stop, or at the very least make it much harder for hombres like him to get back into our country. BUILD THE WALL!!!!!!!!!
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Old 02-02-2018, 06:04 AM
 
Location: Florida & Cebu, Philippines
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I believe that many of us who feel strongly about needing a wall, would be happy to pay for part of it, if asked, I know that I would gladly donate a few hundred dollars, as long as the money was used for that and that alone.

As for Mexico paying for the wall, vote out more dems in the next elections and then Trump will have the votes to pass what would be necessary to make them pay for it in fees.
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Old 02-02-2018, 06:39 AM
 
Location: Florida & Cebu, Philippines
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If every Trump voter donated $400 dollars, there would be enough to build the wall. Good luck collecting.

How much did you get in your Trump tax cut?
I am pretty sure all Trump would have to do is give us a wall building fund to send the money to, I would and I would even send $500 if that was necessary to accomplish the wall. How much is even one human life worth, ending the killing illegals commit and stopping so many illegals from dying in the desert would be worth it to me.

As for how much of a tax break I got, I am retired, so I doubt I will know until I do my 2018 taxes next year.
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Old 02-02-2018, 07:01 AM
 
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Here is the problem with a massive project like building the wall. One session of Congress can not fund the wall completely all in one session.

This session of Congress can put a down payment on the wall to get it started, but it would be up to subsequent Congresses to keep the funding going. There is no guarantee another Congress would do that.

Like the Moon Mission, there has to be a unified effort to accomplish the goal. There are Republican Congressmen that do not see putting any money to a physical barrier as the best use of tax dollars on border security.

The fact is we, the United States, are still in debt. And some Republicans do care about adding to that debt. That 50 billion has to come from somewhere, and since Mexico is now out of the running, it looks like the American debt is going to get the bill.

Congress is in no mood to throw 15 billion debt dollars down a hole.

The estimate for the wall is $25 billion not $50 billion. We are already adding to our debt by funding the social costs of illegal immigration to the tune of over $100 billion a year so the wall is fiscally feasible.


Mexico paying for the wall is not off the table. Trump hasn't even begun to implement the plan to make them pay for it. At any rate it is a necessary part of ensuring our national security no matter who pays for it.
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Old 02-02-2018, 08:48 AM
 
Location: Kansas
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Here is the problem with a massive project like building the wall. One session of Congress can not fund the wall completely all in one session.

This session of Congress can put a down payment on the wall to get it started, but it would be up to subsequent Congresses to keep the funding going. There is no guarantee another Congress would do that.

Like the Moon Mission, there has to be a unified effort to accomplish the goal. There are Republican Congressmen that do not see putting any money to a physical barrier as the best use of tax dollars on border security.

The fact is we, the United States, are still in debt. And some Republicans do care about adding to that debt. That 50 billion has to come from somewhere, and since Mexico is now out of the running, it looks like the American debt is going to get the bill.

Congress is in no mood to throw 15 billion debt dollars down a hole.
As we deport the illegal aliens, savings will more than pay for the wall over time. It is an investment in our future and especially our safety and survival as a nation.

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The estimate for the wall is $25 billion not $50 billion. We are already adding to our debt by funding the social costs of illegal immigration to the tune of over $100 billion a year so the wall is fiscally feasible.


Mexico paying for the wall is not off the table. Trump hasn't even begun to implement the plan to make them pay for it. At any rate it is a necessary part of ensuring our national security no matter who pays for it.
At $117 billion a year taxpayer dollars, every illegal alien hauled out will add to the savings.

Trump, "pay for the wall": https://assets.donaldjtrump.com/Pay_for_the_Wall.pdf If we think about how they pay for toll roads and bridges...........
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Old 02-02-2018, 09:38 AM
 
Location: Las Vegas/SF Peninsula/South Lake Tahoe
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I believe that many of us who feel strongly about needing a wall, would be happy to pay for part of it, if asked, I know that I would gladly donate a few hundred dollars, as long as the money was used for that and that alone.

As for Mexico paying for the wall, vote out more dems in the next elections and then Trump will have the votes to pass what would be necessary to make them pay for it in fees.
I would gladly make a donation for the purpose of building the Wall.
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Old 02-02-2018, 09:43 AM
 
Location: Connecticut
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What is the policy under the Trump administration? The law says a fine for up to 200 dollars for the first offense. Fine up to 2000 dollars and up to 2 years in jail after that.

Follow the law and lock him up for 2 years. I don't see the problem. follow the law.
It costs approx $100 dollars a day to keep a person in prison. Why spend 70k in taxpayer money to lock up this guy for 2 years? Just deport him. That will probably only cost a couple hundred bucks.

I thought you guys loved money.
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Old 02-02-2018, 02:43 PM
 
Location: Florida & Cebu, Philippines
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It costs approx $100 dollars a day to keep a person in prison. Why spend 70k in taxpayer money to lock up this guy for 2 years? Just deport him. That will probably only cost a couple hundred bucks.

I thought you guys loved money.
And then he would just come back in like he has the last 5 times, lock him up at least until the wall gets finished, we do not need criminal illegals in our country.
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