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LordBalfor threw down the gauntlet: how about you posting a rebuttal from a recent website concerning Mexico's 2.39 children per woman's birthrate? Replacement level is 2.1.
And; I read another source (somewhere here on City-Data posted by ProLogic a while back) that Mx's birthrate is hovering around 2.1 kids these days-------down from ca. 7.2 back in 1962.
There's another factor also and that's the age of childbearing, the length of a generation.
American women tend to delay childbirth until they've finished an education, developed some job skills, and married which can make them well into their 30s before they get around to having their one or two children.
By that age, the Mexican woman is already a grandmother because most Mexican women already have one or two children by the time they're 18 years old which means that population is reproducing at a much faster rate. Even if they had the same number of children, their generations are so much shorter that in 100 years, they easily might have 6 or 7 generations while the Americans might have 3.
That might be the birthrate of Mexico itself but millions of them simply cross the border to give birth in the USA because it's free and then they can claim welfare handouts.
Many who live in Mexico cross over the border to give birth in the USA to get the birth certificates but return to live in Mexico. I doubt the overall birth rate is down that much from the 7.2.
I am tending towards the '2.4 children per woman' figure myself......
Why I say that is I rarely see more than 3-4 children per 'Latina' woman these days with 1-2 kids occurring more and more often
There's another factor also and that's the age of childbearing, the length of a generation.
American women tend to delay childbirth until they've finished an education, developed some job skills, and married which can make them well into their 30s before they get around to having their one or two children.
By that age, the Mexican woman is already a grandmother because most Mexican women already have one or two children by the time they're 18 years old which means that population is reproducing at a much faster rate. Even if they had the same number of children, their generations are so much shorter that in 100 years, they easily might have 6 or 7 generations while the Americans might have 3.
I catch your drift; yet, a Mexican friend of mine flat stated that, if anything, the aging population (due to the tumbling birthrate) SOB is a concern.
There's another factor also and that's the age of childbearing, the length of a generation.
American women tend to delay childbirth until they've finished an education, developed some job skills, and married which can make them well into their 30s before they get around to having their one or two children.
By that age, the Mexican woman is already a grandmother because most Mexican women already have one or two children by the time they're 18 years old which means that population is reproducing at a much faster rate. Even if they had the same number of children, their generations are so much shorter that in 100 years, they easily might have 6 or 7 generations while the Americans might have 3.
Wrong again - another outdated misconception.
If that was still the case, Mexico's population growth would be much faster than that of the US. As it is, Mexico's population growth rate is only 1.12 - barely more that that of the US (.97) and less than world growth overall (1.17). This is a dramatic reduction in Mexican population growth (it was 3.5% in 1965) - so again, it's clear your views of Mexico - although true at one time, are completely outdated.
You need to come into the present. Your perceptions of Mexico seem to be stuck in the 1960's. While Mexico is still struggling with some problems, population growth is no longer one of them amd overall the country is making dramatic positive changes in most areas.
I hope I didn't come off as sounding like I was insulting you for having outdated views of Mexico. If I did, I profoundly apologize. Clearly your views of Mexico are outdated, but in truth, that really makes you no different from the vast majority of Americans. The fact is, how can Americans NOT be ignorant about Mexico - or the realities of overseas events and international trends in general? Afterall, how much news do we really ever hear about wwhat is going on in foreign countries? The answer is, virtually nothing at all unless it directly concerns a visit by a US dignitary. Most Americans get their news from either the network nightly news or cable news channels. Network news tries to cram the entire worlds' news into 1/2 hour - it's not possible to even get a good overview of US news in that time - let alone squeeze in any worthwhile foreign news. As for the cable news channels - well 24 hour news sounds impressive until you realize that they mostly just repeat the same top stories over and over again every half hour (or hour at the most) - that is, when they are not putting on overpaid BS artist spouting off about the latest controversial subject. So the fact is, most Americans know next to nothing about what is going on outside the US - even in a nation as close as Mexico so it's not at all surprising that your views of Mexico's population growth is so out of date. Most Americans are in the same situation.
I hope I didn't come off as sounding like I was insulting you for having outdated views of Mexico. If I did, I profoundly apologize. Clearly your views of Mexico are outdated, but in truth, that really makes you no different from the vast majority of Americans. The fact is, how can Americans NOT be ignorant about Mexico - or the realities of overseas events and international trends in general? Afterall, how much news do we really ever hear about wwhat is going on in foreign countries? The answer is, virtually nothing at all unless it directly concerns a visit by a US dignitary. Most Americans get their news from either the network nightly news or cable news channels. Network news tries to cram the entire worlds' news into 1/2 hour - it's not possible to even get a good overview of US news in that time - let alone squeeze in any worthwhile foreign news. As for the cable news channels - well 24 hour news sounds impressive until you realize that they mostly just repeat the same top stories over and over again every half hour (or hour at the most) - that is, when they are not putting on overpaid BS artist spouting off about the latest controversial subject. So the fact is, most Americans know next to nothing about what is going on outside the US - even in a nation as close as Mexico so it's not at all surprising that your views of Mexico's population growth is so out of date. Most Americans are in the same situation.
Ken
Listen to the BBC in the morning, they have a global outlook, our news media is all crap, I never listen to it.
Listen to the BBC in the morning, they have a global outlook, our news media is all crap, I never listen to it.
CNN International Channel, if you can get it (it's on my cable system here).
And you're right about old viewpoints about Mexico. Things are changing here, day by day, and getting better. I attempt to point that out in these forums.
I remember Revolution Blvd (in Tijuana) from the old days when the most seediest of "events" would occur there (the US Navy types on leave loved it!) Today, Revolution is a virbrant, clean, modern shopping area in a city that receives the most foreign visitors in the world!
And you're right about old viewpoints about Mexico. Things are changing here, day by day, and getting better. I attempt to point that out in these forums.
Yeah, I know, but it doesn't seem to sink in with most people. They just can't seem to understand that the world is changing and that in most places (Mexico included) living standards are raising dramatically. Of course it's not helped much that virtually every Hollywood movie and TV show seems to show these countries as crime-ridden cesspools.
Well DUH!
These shows are all about drama. They're not going to show the normal everyday life of those folks who's lot are getting better, they're going to show violence and excitement - if they didn't, they would be boring. Same with movies about the American West. When was the last time you saw a movie the pioneer went out West, settled down, carved out his farm, never had to kill any Indians or fight off any rustlers, but just lived a hard but peaceful life? Movies like that just aren't made very often because (with few exceptions) people don't want to see them.
Yes, there ARE crime-ridden cesspool areas in Mexico, but there are also more and more people that are clearly middle class and up and coming - and the popular image Americans seem to have of a filthy Mexican mother with 12 snot-nosed kids running wild is becoming pretty rare nowadays - and that applies to the illegal immigrants here in the US too. I see folks I'm "pretty sure" are probably illegal immigrants all the time - and I've yet to see a single case where there were more than 3 kids with them (and that case with 3 kids was a single instance). Most such mothers have but a single child, or two at the most - at least that is my experience, and I live in an area of Seattle that borders on a Mexcan immigrant enclave so I see lots of them.
Wrong again - another outdated misconception.
If that was still the case, Mexico's population growth would be much faster than that of the US. As it is, Mexico's population growth rate is only 1.12 - barely more that that of the US (.97) and less than world growth overall (1.17). This is a dramatic reduction in Mexican population growth (it was 3.5% in 1965) - so again, it's clear your views of Mexico - although true at one time, are completely outdated.
You need to come into the present. Your perceptions of Mexico seem to be stuck in the 1960's. While Mexico is still struggling with some problems, population growth is no longer one of them amd overall the country is making dramatic positive changes in most areas.
Ken
Have you considered that part of that phenomenon might be that the avid breeders of Mexico now reside in the US?
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