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Old 03-21-2018, 05:09 PM
 
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I'm catching up on my White House youtube channel videos. If you haven't discovered them, it's a great resource. You will save a lot of time watching cable news. Why not watch meetings directly instead of having a presstitute interpret it for you because they think you are stupid? Think for yourself.

This one involves a roundtable of law enforcement officials. One Angel Mom was there telling her story and it was shocking.

I really like Trump opening up these meetings to media so they can't say they have to lie because they don't have the info. No, the media lies even when they do have the info!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-H5v91lzFvM
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Old 03-21-2018, 08:13 PM
 
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Sorry, but that number sounds unlikely, unless they're also counting suicides and accidents.

There have been about 285,000 people murdered in the United States since 9/11/2001. About 3 percent of the U.S. population consists of undocumented immigrants. That would translate to about 8600 people murdered by undocumented immigrants if the rates were the same. If there were 63,000 people murdered by undocumented immigrants, they would represent more than 22 percent of all murders.

That's not believable. How many undocumented immigrants do you think live in high murder rate cities such as Baltimore, Detroit, and St. Louis? Wouldn't the murder rate of states where there are lots of undocumented immigrants be much higher? California, Texas, and Arizona don't have sky-high murder rates in comparison to the rest of the United States.
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Old 03-21-2018, 08:27 PM
 
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Sorry, but that number sounds unlikely, unless they're also counting suicides and accidents.

There have been about 285,000 people murdered in the United States since 9/11/2001. About 3 percent of the U.S. population consists of undocumented immigrants. That would translate to about 8600 people murdered by undocumented immigrants if the rates were the same. If there were 63,000 people murdered by undocumented immigrants, they would represent more than 22 percent of all murders.

That's not believable. How many undocumented immigrants do you think live in high murder rate cities such as Baltimore, Detroit, and St. Louis? Wouldn't the murder rate of states where there are lots of undocumented immigrants be much higher? California, Texas, and Arizona don't have sky-high murder rates in comparison to the rest of the United States.
Where did OP say murdered? I suspect the number includes deaths due to drunk driving. Recently an illegal driving drunk killed an NFL player and his Uber driver. As I read an article about the accident there was a link to a very similar story that had happened just a couple of weeks before. Another illegal driving drunk killed multiple people.
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Old 03-21-2018, 08:42 PM
 
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Sorry, but that number sounds unlikely, unless they're also counting suicides and accidents.

There have been about 285,000 people murdered in the United States since 9/11/2001. About 3 percent of the U.S. population consists of undocumented immigrants. That would translate to about 8600 people murdered by undocumented immigrants if the rates were the same. If there were 63,000 people murdered by undocumented immigrants, they would represent more than 22 percent of all murders.

That's not believable. How many undocumented immigrants do you think live in high murder rate cities such as Baltimore, Detroit, and St. Louis? Wouldn't the murder rate of states where there are lots of undocumented immigrants be much higher? California, Texas, and Arizona don't have sky-high murder rates in comparison to the rest of the United States.

I think it is believable. Here's a link to the crime stats of "illegal aliens".


https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...tive-born-stu/
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Old 03-21-2018, 08:49 PM
 
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Where did OP say murdered? I suspect the number includes deaths due to drunk driving. Recently an illegal driving drunk killed an NFL player and his Uber driver. As I read an article about the accident there was a link to a very similar story that had happened just a couple of weeks before. Another illegal driving drunk killed multiple people.
I'm sure death resulting from DUI, reckless disregard and involuntary manslaughter are the norm. I mean, they're all helpless "immigrants", they don't really mean to hurt anyone. They just want a better life... Libs will defend these people to the death. Their continued relevance in politics depends on their votes. They will never give up the push for open borders and amnesty for all.
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Old 03-21-2018, 09:25 PM
 
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Where did OP say murdered? I suspect the number includes deaths due to drunk driving. Recently an illegal driving drunk killed an NFL player and his Uber driver. As I read an article about the accident there was a link to a very similar story that had happened just a couple of weeks before. Another illegal driving drunk killed multiple people.
Yeah, that's why I specified that this number might be believable if we take non-homicidal deaths into account. But if it's believable, at some point it's not particularly relevant because you start getting into within reasonably expected values given undocumented immigrants' population in the U.S.
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Old 03-21-2018, 09:48 PM
 
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Sorry, but that number sounds unlikely, unless they're also counting suicides and accidents.

There have been about 285,000 people murdered in the United States since 9/11/2001. About 3 percent of the U.S. population consists of undocumented immigrants. That would translate to about 8600 people murdered by undocumented immigrants if the rates were the same. If there were 63,000 people murdered by undocumented immigrants, they would represent more than 22 percent of all murders.

That's not believable. How many undocumented immigrants do you think live in high murder rate cities such as Baltimore, Detroit, and St. Louis? Wouldn't the murder rate of states where there are lots of undocumented immigrants be much higher? California, Texas, and Arizona don't have sky-high murder rates in comparison to the rest of the United States.
So lets say the numbers are wrong, they aren't, but to make you happy we will say they are wrong, how about 10,20, or 30,000 they killed, would that number then be acceptable to you? If they kill even one and it is your relative, then is that okay to you?

I am pretty sure they would not release those numbers if they could not back them up, a lot of crime goes on in our own communities that none of us are privy to, I know this for a fact because I worked some of those neighborhoods and saw it happen and it never made the news, the news has only so much time and so much space to report, so they only report the ones that fit their agenda. The time is long overdue to deport every last one of these illegals BEFORE they kill any other citizens or legal residents.
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Old 03-22-2018, 08:27 AM
 
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Yeah, that's why I specified that this number might be believable if we take non-homicidal deaths into account. But if it's believable, at some point it's not particularly relevant because you start getting into within reasonably expected values given undocumented immigrants' population in the U.S.

I'm not sure what you mean by your last sentence in regards to illegal aliens.
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Old 03-22-2018, 09:43 AM
 
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Sorry, but that number sounds unlikely, unless they're also counting suicides and accidents.

There have been about 285,000 people murdered in the United States since 9/11/2001. About 3 percent of the U.S. population consists of undocumented immigrants. That would translate to about 8600 people murdered by undocumented immigrants if the rates were the same. If there were 63,000 people murdered by undocumented immigrants, they would represent more than 22 percent of all murders.

That's not believable. How many undocumented immigrants do you think live in high murder rate cities such as Baltimore, Detroit, and St. Louis? Wouldn't the murder rate of states where there are lots of undocumented immigrants be much higher? California, Texas, and Arizona don't have sky-high murder rates in comparison to the rest of the United States.
Hm, you call the posters stats into question, then post your own with NOTHING to back them up.

What is wrong with this picture?
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Old 03-22-2018, 10:52 AM
 
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I'm not sure what you mean by your last sentence in regards to illegal aliens.
That if the population is 4 percent undocumented immigrants, there are a 100 crimes committed each year, and 4 of those are committed by undocumented immigrants, that's the number you would expect.
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