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Old 03-27-2018, 01:02 PM
 
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Unfortunately, I have to agree with Moth. Trump used the wall as a campaign speech to win votes. He may want to build a wall but for the criminal cartels from flowing in but not for the DACA recipients. It's very unfortunate but he has mentioned many times he wants to take care of the dreamers. It's clear with his actions and not by what he says, where he stands on this issue.

Too bad, most of the people in this country only see Dems and Repubs as possible outcome to the election, which is why we get the same results for decades. Although, he's STILL a million times better then Hillary, he betrayed Americans with his deceitful lies. The truth has comes out, we need a candidate like Ron Paul in office.

The Globalist are winning by having the Illegals here and having infiltrated our system to keep them here. Very unfortunate.

Although I'm disappointed that he wants to use the DACAs as a bargaining chip for the wall he is still pursuing the wall. I don't know how anyone can state otherwise.
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Old 03-27-2018, 01:04 PM
 
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I don't see how you can think that he's not doing anything about illegal immigration.
He has enabled ICE to do their job a bit better. And at current rates, we will have all the illegals deported in 20,000 years or so.
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Old 03-27-2018, 01:09 PM
 
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He has enabled ICE to do their job a bit better. And at current rates, we will have all the illegals deported in 20,000 years or so.
He's doing the best he can in deporting illegal aliens. If he were to do a mass round up we'd never hear the end of it from liberals and ethnocentrics. That's not all he's doing. He had prototypes build for the wall and was able to get some border security funds recently. However, he is now pursuing using some military funding for the wall as a national security issue.
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Old 03-27-2018, 01:21 PM
 
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He's doing the best he can in deporting illegal aliens. If he were to do a mass round up we'd never hear the end of it from liberals and ethnocentrics. That's not all he's doing. He had prototypes build for the wall and was able to get some border security funds recently. However, he is now pursuing using some military funding for the wall as a national security issue.
As I said, at that rate, we will deport the last illegal in 10,000 years.

I don't like it, but the left has won. They recognized that most Americans cannot discern between legal and illegal immigration. They then framed it as a Civil Rights issue.

The GOP has done nothing but crap in their pants over this. Good grief, is there not one man or woman who can stand up and calmly explain why illegal immigration is bad? Not one who can explain: LEGAL vs ILLEGAL? Not one?



Then there are whole states who basically flipping the bird at the Feds.

"Some border security funds" and a few prototypes of something never to be built is no match for that.
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Old 03-27-2018, 02:40 PM
 
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As I said, at that rate, we will deport the last illegal in 10,000 years.

I don't like it, but the left has won. They recognized that most Americans cannot discern between legal and illegal immigration. They then framed it as a Civil Rights issue.

The GOP has done nothing but crap in their pants over this. Good grief, is there not one man or woman who can stand up and calmly explain why illegal immigration is bad? Not one who can explain: LEGAL vs ILLEGAL? Not one?



Then there are whole states who basically flipping the bird at the Feds.

"Some border security funds" and a few prototypes of something never to be built is no match for that.

It took Eisenhower only a few months to deport 3 million of them. What we need to do is remove all of the incentives for them to remain here such as jobs, birthright citizenship for their kids and benefits. Many if not most would self-deport. Trump had e-verify in his 2018 budget.


No, the pro-illegals have not won and it doesn't matter that they have fooled many as most of us aren't that stupid. There have been many who have denoted how bad illegal immigration is for our country but there are also those with an agenda that don't care. They are fortunately among the minority in this country.


Why play down what Trump has done already and why be a doubting Thomas of what he can and will still try to do? You can't just make statements that he can't or won't do this or that when anyone can see that he is at least trying.
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Old 03-27-2018, 02:49 PM
 
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It took Eisenhower only a few months to deport 3 million of them. What we need to do is remove all of the incentives for them to remain here such as jobs, birthright citizenship for their kids and benefits. Many if not most would self-deport. Trump had e-verify in his 2018 budget.


No, the pro-illegals have not won and it doesn't matter that they have fooled many as most of us aren't that stupid. There have been many who have denoted how bad illegal immigration is for our country but there are also those with an agenda that don't care. They are fortunately among the minority in this country.


Why play down what Trump has done already and why be a doubting Thomas of what he can and will still try to do? You can't just make statements that he can't or won't do this or that when anyone can see that he is at least trying.

Because he has done nothing of note.

We could solve this tomorrow were there the will. There is no will to solve it. Both parties like it.
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Old 03-27-2018, 03:06 PM
 
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Because he has done nothing of note.

We could solve this tomorrow were there the will. There is no will to solve it. Both parties like it.

I've already pointed out to you what he has done so far and it's more than any other president in the past few administrations so I don't get where you are coming from.
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Old 03-27-2018, 06:31 PM
 
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I love how Trumpsters make excuses for his lies...the man has conned you !
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Old 03-27-2018, 06:55 PM
 
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They recognized that most Americans cannot discern between legal and illegal immigration.
Let's see... An illegal immigrant is a foreign national who crosses the border into the United States without permission to enter this country?

Sounds kind of simple to me.
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Old 03-27-2018, 07:11 PM
 
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Let's see... An illegal immigrant is a foreign national who crosses the border into the United States without permission to enter this country?

Sounds kind of simple to me.
Not exactly. Sometimes they have permission and overstay
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