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Old 03-28-2018, 08:08 PM
 
Location: Sarasota FL
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When the IRS started requiring new born babies to have an SS #, I though, what an opportunity for criminals and illegal aliens to use a SS # for 20 years. There are kids that have no idea that their number is being used.

 
Old 03-28-2018, 08:15 PM
 
Location: la la land
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Originally Posted by architech100 View Post
What a fantastic country we live in. Illegal immigration is huge business and Identity theft now is a multi billion dollar industry

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...benefits-to-m/
I think your source is misleading. This is what the Social Security administration actually said:

"Experts say illegal immigrants make up a majority—possibly up to 75 percent—of SSA’s “earnings suspense file,” which is a record it keeps on W-2s where the names and Social Security numbers don’t match up in their system"

That does not mean that all of those SSN's belong to someone else, a good number of them are just random numbers that don't belong to anyone. https://www.centerforhealthjournalis...o-hope-benefit
 
Old 03-28-2018, 08:21 PM
 
Location: 23.7 million to 162 million miles North of Venus
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Oh look, the left is making excuse for illegals criminal behavior and condoning the criminal behavior.

Illegals do get tax refunds and the government does not care, in fact the government likes it. A 2011 audit found that illegals were paid $4.2 billion in refundable credits.
Someone steals your ID info and uses it to work and file taxes. If the thief files taxes before their victim and get the tax return before their victim then the IRS does not care. Once the IRS sends out the refund check they wash their hands of the matter.
If they commit a crime then the ID theft victim may[and has] pay the price for the crime. The ID theft victim can be sued, end up in jail, etc. It can be a massive personal and financial disaster for the ID theft victim. Why does the left not care about their fellow citizen?


"Instead, we have the top dog at the IRS, the IRS Commissioner himself, admitting that, well, there’s a problem with illegal immigrants and taxes. In fact, the top IRS official this time wasn’t talking about how the IRS wipes some hard drives or can’t find emails. He wasn’t even asking for a bigger budget to give bonuses to IRS employees.

This time, he was talking about illegal immigrants, and about the IRS turning a blind eye. Or maybe worse. The IRS actually wants illegal immigrants to illegally use Social Security numbers, he suggested."

https://www.forbes.com/sites/robertw.../#64c818a44c04


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Yes, but don't worry, the dems assure us that none of these illegals are voting.
They are as willfully ignorant about that as they are about this.
 
Old 03-28-2018, 08:43 PM
 
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Originally Posted by architech100 View Post
What a fantastic country we live in. Illegal immigration is huge business and Identity theft now is a multi billion dollar industry

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...benefits-to-m/
Wait, I thought only the best of the best illegally came here according to all the fluff shows showing the hardships "undocumented workers" had to endure working in the shadows.
This makes it sound like they are criminals at least twice, by illegally crossing our border (thus making them illegal aliens), and then violating other laws by stealing/using American citizens SS numbers.

Since leftists never portray or do stories on the criminal illegal aliens, they all must be (every single one of them based on how the stories are framed) inaccurately portrayed.


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Old 03-28-2018, 09:58 PM
 
Location: Nevada side of Lake Tahoe
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Then they can vote and receive welfare benefits, while others deny it from happening.
 
Old 03-28-2018, 10:02 PM
 
Location: Nevada side of Lake Tahoe
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how do they even have a SSN if they are illegal?
They steal it from someone else. And if they are born here, they could get one. Eventually when they turn 18, they can receive welfare benefits and vote.
 
Old 03-28-2018, 10:28 PM
 
Location: la la land
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They steal it from someone else. And if they are born here, they could get one. Eventually when they turn 18, they can receive welfare benefits and vote.
They don't get welfare benefits and if they vote they are committing a felony.
 
Old 03-28-2018, 10:47 PM
 
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They don't get welfare benefits and if they vote they are committing a felony.
Illegals can get welfare. And they do use it in a great deal of cases, along with tons of other public services.

Illegals received nearly $1.3 billion in Los Angeles County welfare money during 2015 and 2016

LA made $1.3B in illegal immigrant welfare payouts in just 2 years | Fox News
 
Old 03-28-2018, 10:52 PM
 
Location: la la land
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Illegals can get welfare. And they do use it in a great deal of cases, along with tons of other public services.

Illegals received nearly $1.3 billion in Los Angeles County welfare money during 2015 and 2016

LA made $1.3B in illegal immigrant welfare payouts in just 2 years | Fox News
I've read it, it's BS. They add in the "approximate costs of the services that everyone receives, schools, police, street cleaning etc. and they add in benefits that their citizen children legally receive. All kids are entitled to go to public school regardless of citizenship, and that's not a "California thing" it's nationwide and the result of a supreme court decision. Illegal immigrants do not receive welfare benefits, it's against federal law and it doesn't happen
 
Old 03-29-2018, 09:40 AM
 
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Oh look, the left is making excuse for illegals criminal behavior and condoning the criminal behavior.

Illegals do get tax refunds and the government does not care, in fact the government likes it. A 2011 audit found that illegals were paid $4.2 billion in refundable credits.
Someone steals your ID info and uses it to work and file taxes. If the thief files taxes before their victim and get the tax return before their victim then the IRS does not care. Once the IRS sends out the refund check they wash their hands of the matter.

If they commit a crime then the ID theft victim may[and has] pay the price for the crime. The ID theft victim can be sued, end up in jail, etc. It can be a massive personal and financial disaster for the ID theft victim. Why does the left not care about their fellow citizen?


"Instead, we have the top dog at the IRS, the IRS Commissioner himself, admitting that, well, there’s a problem with illegal immigrants and taxes. In fact, the top IRS official this time wasn’t talking about how the IRS wipes some hard drives or can’t find emails. He wasn’t even asking for a bigger budget to give bonuses to IRS employees.

This time, he was talking about illegal immigrants, and about the IRS turning a blind eye. Or maybe worse. The IRS actually wants illegal immigrants to illegally use Social Security numbers, he suggested."

https://www.forbes.com/sites/robertw.../#64c818a44c04



They are as willfully ignorant about that as they are about this.
Illegals do get tax refunds and the government does not care, in fact the government likes it. A 2011 audit found that illegals were paid $4.2 billion in refundable credits.
Someone steals your ID info and uses it to work and file taxes. If the thief files taxes before their victim and get the tax return before their victim then the IRS does not care. Once the IRS sends out the refund check they wash their hands of the matter.


This is exactly what happened to us ........ and the IRS came after us for the "refundable credit" they gave away to whoever was using our Social Security numbers to file for their fraudulent "refundable credit". We keep excellent records, I never file online - I send a check and then copy that cancelled check and add it to my Tax File. It took almost 2 years to clear it up and in the meantime, the IRS threatened via one of their form letters to place a Tax Lien on our home. They don't always "wash their hands of it" - sometimes they go after the legitimate Tax Payer to pay for their ineptitude. I finally got what the IRS says they will never give out - a statement from them that our case was settled, they admitted their mistake and our file will now have Victim Status. Fight for your rights and your money.
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