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Old 04-02-2018, 02:40 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Visit Palm Springs, Phoenix or Las Vegas. You will find thousands of Canadians moving through with no limits on where they go. They likely will not clump up at the Mexican border as they simply drive across when they wish. You are simply trying to prove a problem where none exists. Canadians flow through the Mexican border like water.
None of those cities are on the Canadian border.

 
Old 04-02-2018, 02:52 PM
 
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If we prevent them from even setting so much as one foot on US soil, then no one will hear their fake asylum claims. If they truly had a legit claim for asylum, then they would go visit a US embassy or consulate in their own country.



Generalize much, do you?

I never invited illegals into this country. Plus I never had a pool to clean. I took care of my own child. When we hired people to work on our property, we only hired those who were licensed and insured. When the car needed work, we took it to a reputable shop.

You live in Canada. Do you check to see if those you hire are legally authorized to work in Canada? Do you check to see if they are licensed and insured?
You canít file for asylum from another country unless itís a port of entry.
 
Old 04-02-2018, 03:00 PM
 
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And we are supposed to take their word on it?

Most of them come from Socialist Latin American corrupt countries and will continue to expect the government to take care of them.
They’re just upgrading.

No, these leaches are coming for the freebies ... guaranteed!

Bodies stacked 10 feet high are an effective wall!
Surely you jest.

Speaking of people who expect government to take care of them, a million American citizens live in Mexico yet most of them may be there, illegally.

And guess who else offers freebies ... if you guessed Mexico, you're right.

Good for the goose, salt for the gander?

If you think anyone comes to America or migrates to any country looking for a handout, think again. When the economy goes south, and there are no jobs, then people do not want to move to a country that is no better than the one in which they live.

People are looking for jobs, security and a great place in which to have a family. Sadly enough America no longer offers those things. But it's great you still believe it does.
 
Old 04-02-2018, 03:24 PM
 
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You canít file for asylum from another country unless itís a port of entry.
Not entirely true:

https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclope...consulate.html

From the link:

However, this does not mean that embassy personnel cannot offer any help at all to people who are in danger and seek their protection. In extreme or exceptional circumstances, U.S. embassies and consulates may offer alternative forms of protection, including (in most countries) temporary refuge, a referral to the U.S. Refugee Admissions Program, or a request for parole to the U.S. Department of Homeland Security.

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There is more detail in the article but it isn't as black and white as you make it out to be.

The best solution with this horde is to work hard to make sure that not so much as one of them makes it to US soil.
 
Old 04-02-2018, 03:29 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Surely you jest.

Speaking of people who expect government to take care of them, a million American citizens live in Mexico yet most of them may be there, illegally.

And guess who else offers freebies ... if you guessed Mexico, you're right.

Good for the goose, salt for the gander?

If you think anyone comes to America or migrates to any country looking for a handout, think again. When the economy goes south, and there are no jobs, then people do not want to move to a country that is no better than the one in which they live.

People are looking for jobs, security and a great place in which to have a family. Sadly enough America no longer offers those things. But it's great you still believe it does.
What freebies are you referring to? Your articles didn't give any numbers about American retirees collecting cash welfare, housing assistance, or food stamps from Mexico. Are Mexican towns slowly becoming bilingual, with Mexicans disqualified from jobs for not knowing English, and the government having to spend money on translation services? Of course due to age they aren't going to school on Mexico's dime, demanding subsidized college tuition, nor birthing children there who automatically qualify for citizenship and all its benefits. They're retired so they aren't competing for jobs or depressing wages.

If they're there illegally they need to leave, but let's not pretend the problem of American retirees in Mexico is on par with Mexican illegals in the United States. Do they have a DACA-equivalent program down there where half of Mexico's politicians are arguing for the children of illegal Americans to be granted citizenship? Has any former American president cussed out Mexico on Twitter in defense of American retirees living there and doing whatever they want? I think not.
 
Old 04-02-2018, 04:13 PM
 
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You people will believe anything

Its called FAKE news

posted by Russia?
Says the party that favored the Soviet Union and North Vietnam over the US!
 
Old 04-02-2018, 04:55 PM
 
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What freebies are you referring to? Your articles didn't give any numbers about American retirees collecting cash welfare, housing assistance, or food stamps from Mexico. Are Mexican towns slowly becoming bilingual, with Mexicans disqualified from jobs for not knowing English, and the government having to spend money on translation services? Of course due to age they aren't going to school on Mexico's dime, demanding subsidized college tuition, nor birthing children there who automatically qualify for citizenship and all its benefits. They're retired so they aren't competing for jobs or depressing wages.

If they're there illegally they need to leave, but let's not pretend the problem of American retirees in Mexico is on par with Mexican illegals in the United States. Do they have a DACA-equivalent program down there where half of Mexico's politicians are arguing for the children of illegal Americans to be granted citizenship? Has any former American president cussed out Mexico on Twitter in defense of American retirees living there and doing whatever they want? I think not.
Good post!
 
Old 04-02-2018, 06:07 PM
 
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I donít believe that that is legal or an option. Once you reach the border youíre on American soil
How can they be on American soil if they are still on Mexican soil? I am talking about not letting them step onto American soil. If they never enter the US they can't apply for asylum. This is where walls pay for themselves.
 
Old 04-02-2018, 06:15 PM
 
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What freebies are you referring to? Your articles didn't give any numbers about American retirees collecting cash welfare, housing assistance, or food stamps from Mexico. Are Mexican towns slowly becoming bilingual, with Mexicans disqualified from jobs for not knowing English, and the government having to spend money on translation services? Of course due to age they aren't going to school on Mexico's dime, demanding subsidized college tuition, nor birthing children there who automatically qualify for citizenship and all its benefits. They're retired so they aren't competing for jobs or depressing wages.

If they're there illegally they need to leave, but let's not pretend the problem of American retirees in Mexico is on par with Mexican illegals in the United States. Do they have a DACA-equivalent program down there where half of Mexico's politicians are arguing for the children of illegal Americans to be granted citizenship? Has any former American president cussed out Mexico on Twitter in defense of American retirees living there and doing whatever they want? I think not.
Just retirees? No Americans go on vacation to Mexico? Of course not, right? lol Cancun? See the Mayan Ruins? My husband in the past went to do IT work in Mexico City for a consulting firm. 20 years ago my daughter went to play against a soccer team there.

Will Americans be banned from going there too? Go there and you can STAY there?????
 
Old 04-02-2018, 06:18 PM
 
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How can they be on American soil if they are still on Mexican soil? I am talking about not letting them step onto American soil. If they never enter the US they can't apply for asylum. This is where walls pay for themselves.
Walls do not go on or even very near the real border. You need access to both sides of the wall to maintain it. If you put it on the border the other country can simply build steps to get to the top. Or digs a deep trench and lets the wall fall over the first big wind.

And the refugees simply walk up to the Border Patrol station which is always on American territory for a land crossing.

Face it there is no way to avoid a refugee claiming asylum if they can reach an American border.
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