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Old 03-31-2018, 10:58 AM
 
Location: Cape Cod
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Well since Trumps wall is being blocked at every attempt to build it and the Dems love their illegals so much there is no doubt that the hordes will be welcomed with open arms.


The Left has set America on a road to destruction and I fear that Trump is only a rest stop to stretch our legs and get a bite to eat before we get back on that bumpy road to ruin in 2020 or 2024 and there is nothing that we can do about it.


There is a time coming in America when illegals will be legal and the general public will be disarmed.

 
Old 03-31-2018, 11:27 AM
 
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Well since Trumps wall is being blocked at every attempt to build it and the Dems love their illegals so much there is no doubt that the hordes will be welcomed with open arms.


The Left has set America on a road to destruction and I fear that Trump is only a rest stop to stretch our legs and get a bite to eat before we get back on that bumpy road to ruin in 2020 or 2024 and there is nothing that we can do about it.


There is a time coming in America when illegals will be legal and the general public will be disarmed.
And you sound extremely happy about this......anything to gain by this, perhaps? And I ask this in all sincerity.....

You might want to really look up what is going on in South Africa, and Germany, Sweden and the U.K. Before all information is blocked....and it will be soon.

BTW, people who aid in this sort of NGO activity are typically considered "dirty gloves" when thé élites of the group move on to their next cause....and we all know what happens to dirty gloves, don't we? They get disposed of...

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Old 03-31-2018, 11:34 AM
 
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You people will believe anything

Its called FAKE news

posted by Russia?
Chuckie, you now have the burden of proof, show us, dear where is this fake news? I highly doubt Russia or Putin had any hand in this.

And if he did, that makes him a pretty powerful strategist.
 
Old 03-31-2018, 12:05 PM
 
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"The naysayers of the wall just want the flow of illegal aliens to continue....."

How about the naysayers of the wall just want a more effective way of dealing with the problem that encompasses all of the problem and not just a myopic, ridiculously expensive, simple minded solution. Well, at least it looks like you've done some research. Kudos.

While this article may have appeared in a right wing propaganda machine, it is in fact true that migrants have been coming from the Northern triangle since 2000. They're coming from Guatemala, Honduras, and El Salvador seeking asylum. Between 2010 and 2017 illegal Mexicans coming to our country dropped 400k while triangle refugees seeking asylum quadrupled. The refugees peaked in 2014. Why is that the Mexican's crossing the boarder dropped? No jobs, no incentive to come. Triangle refugees came because of the unrest and corruption in their country. It's not just here in America. They are seeking asylum in Mexico and Canada as well.

People seeking asylum turn themselves in to boarder patrol. How do you ask for asylum if you just disappear into a country illegally? A boarder wall isn't going to stop that migration. How much land would you like to take from American's to build that wall? Somebody owns that property. Walls have consequences. Satellites can look into your back yard 24/7. Technology and man power makes more sense. Yep. I'm not trying to fool anyone. Lets use common sense over red meat base rhetoric.
The wall that Bill Clinton had built at the Tijuana/San Diego border has drastically cut down on illegal crossings and crimes. Yes, I have done research---thank you for the kudos There is nothing "simple minded" about border walls. They do work. After all, you seem to think that the only ones sneaking across the border are sweet, innocent illegals who only want to work. That view is far from the truth. Many are those (even OTMs) who are coming here to do harm.

As for wanting asylum --- These countries they are coming from have US embassies and/or consulates. It's far easier for them to go to one of them and make their case. Many of them are dragging young children with them on this walk through Mexico. That is nothing but child abuse.

BTW, if this horde somehow makes it into this country, are you willing to sponsor several of them and move them into your home?
 
Old 03-31-2018, 01:12 PM
 
Location: Cape Cod
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And you sound extremely happy about this......anything to gain by this, perhaps? And I ask this in all sincerity.....

You might want to really look up what is going on in South Africa, and Germany, Sweden and the U.K. Before all information is blocked....and it will be soon.

BTW, people who aid in this sort of NGO activity are typically considered "dirty gloves" when thé élites of the group move on to their next cause....and we all know what happens to dirty gloves, don't we? They get disposed of...

I'm not happy about it at all because I love America, the Constitution and I respect the rule of law.


The Left is pushing so hard for the rights of illegal immigrants we have to ask ourselves what do they have to gain? oh yeah ultimately the votes from millions of once illegals now granted amnesty.


I am just so worn down by the constant barrage of anti Trump this and that and the ridiculous workings of the Left that I'm on the edge of tossing in the towel and letting them get on with the destruction.
I don't have kids so it doesn't matter if America is turned into a third world socialist country.

The Liberals make no sense at all to me when it comes to many things but especially illegal aliens.
I know immigrants that followed the rules and came to America the proper way. I'm married to one and it is a real slap in the face to her and anyone else when the Dems ignore problems in America but they fall all over themselves to put out the Welcome mat for trespassers and worse is they trash on Trump for trying to enforce existing immigration laws.

It makes no sense at all and the only reasoning is that the Left wants to continue what Obama started with Fundamentally changing America.


Are you calling me "dirty gloves" ? I voted for the rest stop.
 
Old 03-31-2018, 01:33 PM
 
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This calls for the strongest sanctions on Mexico.

And if you don't want to get shot, don't break into our home (our nation).

I don't have a problem with land mines and shoot on sight orders to deters invaders.

We need to put up a sign warning people they'll be shot. En Espanol, apparently.
 
Old 03-31-2018, 02:05 PM
 
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I'm not happy about it at all because I love America, the Constitution and I respect the rule of law.


The Left is pushing so hard for the rights of illegal immigrants we have to ask ourselves what do they have to gain? oh yeah ultimately the votes from millions of once illegals now granted amnesty.


I am just so worn down by the constant barrage of anti Trump this and that and the ridiculous workings of the Left that I'm on the edge of tossing in the towel and letting them get on with the destruction.
I don't have kids so it doesn't matter if America is turned into a third world socialist country.

The Liberals make no sense at all to me when it comes to many things but especially illegal aliens.
I know immigrants that followed the rules and came to America the proper way. I'm married to one and it is a real slap in the face to her and anyone else when the Dems ignore problems in America but they fall all over themselves to put out the Welcome mat for trespassers and worse is they trash on Trump for trying to enforce existing immigration laws.

It makes no sense at all and the only reasoning is that the Left wants to continue what Obama started with Fundamentally changing America.


Are you calling me "dirty gloves" ? I voted for the rest stop.
Pretty much a nonsense post. I am absolutely in favor of legalizing most of the present illegals. But it has absolutely nothing to do with supporting illegal aliens. I don't and all of them should have been sent back to wherever within months of their arrival.

Unfortunately that did not happen. And now there are simply too many to well integrated to be deported. And they have American children - some even 2nd generation and are mostly law abiding residents.

By all means deport criminals and recent arrivals...but the total has to be reduced to that which the US Immigration system can handle. We may be able to beef it up a bit but still will likely break if we don't get the number of illegal aliens below a million.

The phony fear of voters put up by the right can be easily handled. Simply require a 12 year or so term before they can begin the citizenship process. I still think this is mostly a red herring as most Hispanics are pretty conservative on many issues.

And even then we need some tightening of employment laws. The national ID card would work but that has always been opposed by the right. Maybe we can manage so form of eVerify with teeth...though I would not bet on it as the commerce wing is good at lobbying.
 
Old 03-31-2018, 02:09 PM
 
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Liberal immigration judges already accept over 50% of asylum claims. The other 50% get paroled, ignore their court hearings, stay anyway, and then drop anchor babies. All these unskilled migrants on the march who you see bathing and defecating in rivers will soon be in a town near you.
 
Old 03-31-2018, 02:12 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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You people will believe anything

Its called FAKE news

posted by Russia?
Since when is Buzzfeed News a Russian bot? https://www.buzzfeed.com/adolfoflore...6q#.tgB5jBqkwD

Oh and here's the website for People Without Borders, the group organizing the caravan: Home

 
Old 03-31-2018, 02:30 PM
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Location: Anderson, IN
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Pretty simple .the wall ! You can’t throw babies 20feet high !!!
Psh. Well maybe you can't. But not all of us are weenies.

"Traci! That's wrong!" - Everyone

Oh shut up. Don't tell me you've never wanted to.
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