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Old 04-03-2018, 04:02 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Time spent illegally in the US does not count until 180 days after your 18th birthday.
Do you have any evidence or references to support this assertion?
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Old 04-03-2018, 04:56 PM
 
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These kids that are DACAs wait it out till they are 21? They aren't citizens of this country so how can they sponsor their parents for legalization? Or did you mean that their U.S. born kids sponsor them? I'm confused how the DACAs fit into this scenario.
Many with DACA gave citizen brothers and sisters. The parents legalize through them thus the idea of a path on exchange for their parents doesn’t always work out
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Old 04-03-2018, 05:03 PM
 
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Do you have any evidence or references to support this assertion?
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Old 04-03-2018, 07:06 PM
 
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Many with DACA gave citizen brothers and sisters. The parents legalize through them thus the idea of a path on exchange for their parents doesn’t always work out

If that were true that parents could legalize on our soil just because they gave birth on our soil then why did Obama try to implement DAPA which was shot down in the courts?
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Old 04-03-2018, 07:44 PM
 
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If that were true that parents could legalize on our soil just because they gave birth on our soil then why did Obama try to implement DAPA which was shot down in the courts?
For the rest of them. Not everyone can as some came EWI
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Old 04-03-2018, 07:49 PM
 
Location: San Francisco Bay Area
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Many have children here to wait it out until they turn 21. The children petition for the parents and they become legalized. Some have US citizen brothers or sisters as well
The age of majority in the United States is 18. Even if the DACAs have illegal alien parents with "US citizen" children, the parents are still illegal. Perhaps the "US citizen" minor children can be cared for by the DACA adults, thus becoming their responsibility, instead of yet another reason for the illegal alien parents to stay in this country.

What a kerfuffle this has become when it could have been handled years ago by following US immigration laws already on the books. Presidents Clinton, Bush, and Obama are on record saying they do not want illegal aliens here breaking the law. How soon their words are forgotten since subsequently being leaned on by those wanting open borders.

"Immigration reform" has turned political instead of either (1) changing the laws or (2) adhering to the laws already in place.
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Old 04-03-2018, 07:55 PM
 
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The age of majority in the United States is 18. Even if the DACAs have illegal alien parents with "US citizen" children, the parents are still illegal. Perhaps the "US citizen" minor children can be cared for by the DACA adults, thus becoming their responsibility, instead of yet another reason for the illegal alien parents to stay in this country.

What a kerfuffle this has become when it could have been handled years ago by following US immigration laws already on the books. Presidents Clinton, Bush, and Obama are on record saying they do not want illegal aliens here breaking the law. How soon their words are forgotten since subsequently being leaned on by those wanting open borders.

"Immigration reform" has turned political instead of either (1) changing the laws or (2) adhering to the laws already in place.
21 is the age that one can petition legally that’s why I mentioned it. I’m not advocating for it I’m just stating facts
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Old 04-03-2018, 08:13 PM
 
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He's a stranger to that country. He's learned to walk and talk like someone born here. He knows no other place.
Likewise the parent that brought them illegaly also came from a different language and culture. But it's OK when they do it, that's a double standard right there.
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Old 04-03-2018, 08:31 PM
 
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Some people are saying that DACA recipients broke the law when they came over the border, and should be given the usual punishment for anyone who breaks those laws. Even those who were maybe 6 months old when they were carried across he border in their mothers' arms.

I say we should not be so harsh. How can you punish someone who was a little baby when he "committed his crime"? Or even someone who was 5 years old?

How about this compromise?

A guy who was 6 months old when his parents carried him across the border illegally, is now 20 years old and working for a construction company. Should he be punished for stealing 20 years in the US, which technically he did?

I say No.

OK, Charlie, your first 20 years living illegally in a much better country, the United States, are on the house. No punishment. That's a lot more benefit than people who obeyed the law and didn't cross the border 20 years ago, will get.

No charge for your (illegally) enjoying the liberty of the United States, which is far more liberty than your compatriots who obeyed the law ever got. You're still here illegally, so NOW back you go. If you are disturbed over going to live in a country you've almost never set foot in, take it up with your parents, who deliberately and knowingly put you in that situation. What did they intend for you to do, when ICE finally caught up with you and LEGALLY busted you?

You can apply for a visa just like everyone else who wants to come here. The good news is, your illegal residence will NOT be held against you, unlike people who deliberately violated US law and walked across the border (or overstayed a visa) as adults. You will be approved just as quickly as people who never violated US law, even though you have 20 years in the US that they never got.

The deportation bus leaves at noon. Be on it, or else the above 20-year amnesty is cancelled.

What could be more reasonable a compromise?
WHAT?!?!?! You call that COMPROMISE? More like, get out of jail free card to me.

Charlie stole American jobs and lowered the industries wage for 20 YEARS and got away with it. His possessions should be revoked, pay a hefty fine for stealing those jobs ILLEGALLY for 20 years, get deported and not be eligible to re-enter the USA for at least every year he was here illegally. Then maybe, he might be allowed to put in papers to come here legally and wait his turn in line. He can then thank his parents for the punishment he receives due to their illegal acts.
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Old 04-03-2018, 08:44 PM
 
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For the rest of them. Not everyone can as some came EWI

I guess what you are saying is that if adults over stayed their visas and in turn gave birth on our soil those are the parents that have been known to legalize on our soil via their U.S. born children? I still don't know what DACA has to do with it unless you are talking about an entire family coming here and over staying and being legalized via their U.S. born kids/siblings? Sorry, but you're not making yourself very clear and I've never personally ever heard of that. If you know of such cases then I guess it does happen.
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