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Old 04-08-2018, 12:30 PM
 
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Then you create a whole new class of citizens. I somehow doubt that that would pass the senate
Actually liberals in their rush to allow illegals into the country are creating a whole new class of citizens.
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Old 04-08-2018, 12:37 PM
 
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Actually liberals in their rush to allow illegals into the country are creating a whole new class of citizens.
There has been no significant growth in illegal alien populations over the past ten years. Mexican illegals are down by a million and the illegal population has been maintained primarily by over stayers.

Well over 2/3s of the illegals have been here more than 10 years.

There is no rational way to deport 11 million. Simply too much.

If voting is an issue simply legalize. Deal with citizenship a decade from now.
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Old 04-08-2018, 12:45 PM
 
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Once again, you must be reminded that the draft took anybody/everybody who was living here during World War II.
Eh...how many illegal aliens were in the US during WWII? And even those that were here how many do supposed sign up for the draft?
You do know countries like Mexico and other Central America and South American countries remained mostly neutral. Mexico did send fighters planes during the retaking of the Philippines but no ground troops.
Countries like Brazil and Argentina favored the Nazi and harbored Nazi after the end of the war.
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Old 04-08-2018, 12:55 PM
 
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Silliness. Explain how that works on the Rio Grand when the refugees intend to give themselves up.
Actually if anyone was paying attention Trump just sign a proclamation ending 'catch and release'. So giving themselves up should only hasten their return across the border.
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Old 04-08-2018, 12:57 PM
 
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Eh...how many illegal aliens were in the US during WWII? And even those that were here how many do supposed sign up for the draft?
You do know countries like Mexico and other Central America and South American countries remained mostly neutral. Mexico did send fighters planes during the retaking of the Philippines but no ground troops.
Countries like Brazil and Argentina favored the Nazi and harbored Nazi after the end of the war.
Mexico declared war on the axis powers in May of 1942. Mexico and Brazil both sent troops to the fight. Illegal aliens were not feasible at that point. US ran the braceros program and welcomed virtually anyone. Offered citizenship for joining the military.
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Old 04-08-2018, 01:00 PM
 
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We're not speaking of immigrants though the topic is illegal aliens. IMO, they should have to go back to their homelands and apply to come back legally while they wait their turn in line. Applying for citizenship happens after they are accepted to come back.


I'm on the fence as to how many they should be able to sponsor after attaining citizenship except it should be only immediate family members though and I disagree that they should be forced to be sterilized. We should set limits on the number of dependents that a citizen household can claim to gain welfare.
In my scheme, nobody is "forced" to be sterilized - anyone can stay in their country of origin and have an unlimited number of kids. I do agree, though, that there should be a limit on the number of dependents which one can use to increase welfare benefits, and that number should be zero. There should be one fixed welfare benefit, and the welfare recipient should decide whether to spread that benefit on zero, one, two, or eight kids. Isn't that the only fair solution for everyone? Working people do not get paid extra for having more kids - why should welfare recipients be entitled to that?
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Old 04-08-2018, 01:02 PM
 
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SO are you supporting the quasi-slave state California Farmers keep illegal workers in?
Actually automation has replaced a lot of farm labor....both legal and illegal.
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Old 04-08-2018, 01:08 PM
 
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Sorry, but I don't believe someone who accuses law abiding Americans of looking at illegal aliens as sub-humans as one who gets it. Nor do they get it with their claims that our produce will be unaffordable without illegal aliens picking them because most illegal aliens aren't picking crops.
Don't worry about that, its just a new and improved liberal talking points.
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Old 04-08-2018, 01:10 PM
 
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That's the problem so many of you have: inconsistency. You want X number of people to get tossed like yesterday's salad but it would be perfectly alright to draft them if there were a sizeable conflict that "needed" to be addressed. That's hypocritical bsh and you know it.
Actually I would prefer that get tossed because they are a burden to the American tax payer.
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Old 04-08-2018, 01:18 PM
 
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Sorry, but I don't believe someone who accuses law abiding Americans of looking at illegal aliens as sub-humans as one who gets it. Nor do they get it with their claims that our produce will be unaffordable without illegal aliens picking them because most illegal aliens aren't picking crops.
They're picking and growing crops, working in construction and site clean-ups, eateries, and landscaping. They're toiling. Did your kids ever break a sweat?
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