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Old 03-26-2008, 12:07 PM
 
Location: Old Town Alexandria
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Health
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All are strained as the state never estimated the illegals, and lack of taxes they pay;

FAIR Reform has all statistics on this problem
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Old 03-26-2008, 12:10 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Just up your taxes. California has always wanted to take the lead in things.
Be the first state to collapse under its own liberal policies.

Just maybe a state collapsing is what we need to wake up and finally fix this problem.
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Old 03-26-2008, 12:17 PM
 
Location: Old Town Alexandria
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Maybe Bush securing the borders NOW> this is a financial, not bi-partisan catastrophe.
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Old 03-26-2008, 12:23 PM
 
Location: Zurich, Switzerland/ Piedmont, CA
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Actually,
illegals are not a major source of the deficit-that's an exaggeration.

Just like the notion that public services/ welfare are a huge source of the deficit-once again, a huge exaggeration.

The 2 main causes of our deficit are:
1. The slowing economy has slowed the taxable revenue the state has been able to collect.

2. CA pays $290 Billion in taxes to DC each year, and in return, they shortchange CA to the tune of $50 Billion in annual spending so bridges to nowhere can be built elsewhere.


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Old 03-26-2008, 12:26 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Social benefits of the US (all the govt programs as well as public schools, etc) are funded by taxes paid by citizens. Now to be PC the US has allowed these benefits to be used by folks here illegally and those numbers have increased dramatically over the years. Someone has to pay for those benefits. Did the states just think $$$ would magically appear to cover them ?
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Old 03-26-2008, 12:36 PM
 
Location: Zurich, Switzerland/ Piedmont, CA
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Social benefits of the US (all the govt programs as well as public schools, etc) are funded by taxes paid by citizens. Now to be PC the US has allowed these benefits to be used by folks here illegally and those numbers have increased dramatically over the years. Someone has to pay for those benefits. Did the states just think $$$ would magically appear to cover them ?
As far as California, I know for a fact that these are insignifant amounts of money compared to what we pay for public education and law enforcement.

A few billion(5B max out of a state budget over 110B) is not a lot to pay to feed the poor and help them get toothbrushes and toilet paper...and as a good Christian I think its my duty to help my fellow man
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Old 03-26-2008, 01:10 PM
 
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thats what happens when you have a ditto head like scwarz(i give up)er running the "country of california"
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Old 03-26-2008, 01:11 PM
 
Location: southern california
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no problema suspend the Iraq war for 3 months got it paid for
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Old 03-26-2008, 06:37 PM
 
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As far as California, I know for a fact that these are insignifant amounts of money compared to what we pay for public education and law enforcement.

A few billion(5B max out of a state budget over 110B) is not a lot to pay to feed the poor and help them get toothbrushes and toilet paper...and as a good Christian I think its my duty to help my fellow man

As a christians we should help our fellowman not rely on governmant to do it.The assistance given by government is not in the name of any religion and christains can not shirk their person responsiblity;IMO.
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Old 03-26-2008, 08:29 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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As far as California, I know for a fact that these are insignifant amounts of money compared to what we pay for public education and law enforcement.

A few billion(5B max out of a state budget over 110B) is not a lot to pay to feed the poor and help them get toothbrushes and toilet paper...and as a good Christian I think its my duty to help my fellow man
One of the Ten Commandments states: 'Thou Shalt Not Steal'------being in a country illegally is theft IMHO.

Besides: using Mexico as an example; their government/big business have the 'Christian' obligation to help their own downtrodden citizens.
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