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Legalizing is the only solution available. The only other option is to maintain the status quo. That says we will have a hidden disadvantaged socioeconomic class for three or four more decades. So we punish our society for many years rather than end the problem.
Not sure I understand what you're saying here...
but I'm guessing, our society will suffer for the lack of education for approximately 3 generations or more?
I know before Trump was elected, a police officer couldn't ask if they were illegal, and yet, they drive without insurance, a drivers license, etc....
They steal identities....
An officer can perfectly well ask for driver's license and insurance and give a ticket or arrest if not offered.
they can certainly arrest a person using a stolen identity.
An officer can perfectly well ask for driver's license and insurance and give a ticket or arrest if not offered.
they can certainly arrest a person using a stolen identity.
Well maybe a year or two ago, they couldn't b/c I asked my son, he is a police officer...now on the K-9 patrol, however, I'm certain that every state is different?
could you answer my question, as I'm not quit sure I know what you meant in your one post?
Thanks
wait, I think you misunderstood me, he couldn't ask if they were illegal...however, yes, you could arrest them for not having a drivers license...insurance, etc.
Now, recently and I don't know if this passed, but NJ is a dem state, with a whole lot of illegals, and they were going to give them the right to drive? Not sure if that was voted down or not?
Well maybe a year or two ago, they couldn't b/c I asked my son, he is a police officer...now on the K-9 patrol, however, I'm certain that every state is different?
could you answer my question, as I'm not quit sure I know what you meant in your one post?
Thanks
The Supreme Court ruling did not change with Trump. The fact that the police can't stop people to check for I.D. unless for cause was a Supreme Court ruling.
State laws are irrelevant. The don't negate the Supreme Court ruling.
but I'm guessing, our society will suffer for the lack of education for approximately 3 generations or more?
No. Our society will have to put up with the bad effects of having a disadvantaged lower class. That class leads to the exploitation of their labor and the general lowering of wage levels. And there are the other effects of a poor and under-educated class upon society.
No. Our society will have to put up with the bad effects of having a disadvantaged lower class. That class leads to the exploitation of their labor and the general lowering of wage levels. And there are the other effects of a poor and under-educated class upon society.
thank you, yes, that is what I thought you said....and am in total agreement with you...
it is unfortunate....we will pay a price all the way around, especially when you see how people think, or should I say do not use common sense...to think that you can open the flood gates indefinitely and have no negative repercussion is insane.
Legalizing is the only solution available. The only other option is to maintain the status quo. That says we will have a hidden disadvantaged socioeconomic class for three or four more decades. So we punish our society for many years rather than end the problem.
Another amnesty opens up decades more illegal immigration. Not only no but hell no. We are far better off doing what we are doing now. Increase ICE presence, make the environment so hostile they leave.
I'll go out on a limb here and say these people are in a far better place than where they came from so they are hardly disadvantaged. Amnesty fixes nothing it simply rewards them with even more social services.
Another amnesty opens up decades more illegal immigration. Not only no but hell no. We are far better off doing what we are doing now. Increase ICE presence, make the environment so hostile they leave.
I'll go out on a limb here and say these people are in a far better place than where they came from so they are hardly disadvantaged. Amnesty fixes nothing it simply rewards them with even more social services.
Amnesty gives us the opportunity to actually control our immigration. Without legalization there is no control. The present administration is doing no better than the last. So we have the ability to maintain the underclass at about 11 million. And that will go on perhaps forever.
So that is the choice. Limit the illegals to about 11 million and live with it...or fix the problem and stop allowing new additions to the illegals.
Amnesty gives us the opportunity to actually control our immigration. Without legalization there is no control. The present administration is doing no better than the last. So we have the ability to maintain the underclass at about 11 million. And that will go on perhaps forever.
So that is the choice. Limit the illegals to about 11 million and live with it...or fix the problem and stop allowing new additions to the illegals.
What happened after the last amnesty and no wall. 11 million more. No wall no amnesty, no amnesty ever.
What happened after the last amnesty and no wall. 11 million more. No wall no amnesty, no amnesty ever.
Again - It could happen. But the demographics are utterly different. You need to figure out where the new 11 million would come from. Won't be Mexico and unlikely across the southern border.
And the other option is live with an 11 million underclass for at least decades and maybe forever.
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