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Old 04-30-2018, 05:14 PM
 
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Old 04-30-2018, 06:09 PM
 
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Actually he didn't.

And a man with a shriveled hand was there. Looking for a reason to bring charges against Jesus, they asked him, “Is it lawful to heal on the Sabbath?”

He said to them, “If any of you has a sheep and it falls into a pit on the Sabbath, will you not take hold of it and lift it out? How much more valuable is a person than a sheep! Therefore it is lawful to do good on the Sabbath.”

Then he said to the man, “Stretch out your hand.” So he stretched it out and it was completely restored, just as sound as the other. But the Pharisees went out and plotted how they might kill Jesus.
(Matthew 12: 11-13)
Incorrect. You’re talking about the law as it relates to what was given to Moses, aka the Ten Commandments.

I’m talking about the law as in laws that govern the land by authorities. When asked if they should pay taxes, Jesus said:

Matthew 22:20-21 - And He asked them, “Who’s image is this? And who’s inscription?” “Caesar’s” They replied. Then he said to them, “So give back to Caesar what is Caesar’s, and to God what is God’s”.

And then there’s Romans 13:1 - Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God had established.

So yes, when you say wwjd, he would have told them to honor authority and the laws of the land. Easy mistake to make on your part.
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Old 04-30-2018, 07:01 PM
 
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Incorrect. You’re talking about the law as it relates to what was given to Moses, aka the Ten Commandments.
No I'm not. It was the law.
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Old 04-30-2018, 07:37 PM
 
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No I'm not. It was the law.
You have things mixed up and conveniently ignored Romans. I’m not going to turn this into the religious forum to fix your screwed up theology.

I forgive you and grant you absolution. Now go and sin no more.
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Old 04-30-2018, 07:43 PM
 
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You have things mixed up and conveniently ignored Romans. I’m not going to turn this into the religious forum to fix your screwed up theology.

I forgive you and grant you absolution. Now go and sin no more.
People are also constantly trying to find ways out of paying their taxes also.
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Old 04-30-2018, 07:44 PM
 
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Wwjd?
He would say to the wealthy to stop exploiting poor and middle class people by supporting the economic mass migration of cheap labor around the world.

Instead, he would say to the wealthy that they should give back some of their wealth and help educate the poor to prosper in their own communities and stay with their families.

After all, give a man a fish, he has food for a day. Teach a man to fish, he has food for a lifetime.
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Old 04-30-2018, 07:48 PM
 
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People are also constantly trying to find ways out of paying their taxes also.
That doesn’t make it right. Neither is illegal immigration.
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Old 04-30-2018, 08:21 PM
 
Location: SE Asia
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He would say to the wealthy to stop exploiting poor and middle class people by supporting the economic mass migration of cheap labor around the world.

Instead, he would say to the wealthy that they should give back some of their wealth and help educate the poor to prosper in their own communities and stay with their families.

After all, give a man a fish, he has food for a day. Teach a man to fish, he has food for a lifetime.
Or he might have said "What does illegal immigration have to do with me? Obey the laws or let the romans do what romans do.
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Old 04-30-2018, 08:23 PM
 
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That doesn’t make it right. Neither is illegal immigration.
Who said anything about "illegal"?
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Old 05-01-2018, 12:52 AM
 
Location: San Francisco Bay Area
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Illegal aliens are also constantly trying to find ways out of paying their taxes also.
I corrected your statement. Heck, if Americans stopped paying taxes, then what will support the invaders when they get here?
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