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Old 06-04-2018, 01:01 PM
 
Location: Cumberland Co., TN
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So people fleeing violence need to be to be to be apart and treated like **** with gestapo tactics? That is fine with sociopaths.
They aren't treated differently than US citizens who commit crimes. Actually they are treated better.

 
Old 06-04-2018, 01:33 PM
 
Location: Cumberland Co., TN
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I lived in a gated community about 30 miles from where don1945 lives. There are a whole LOT of gated communities in SW Florida. "Gated communities" means nothing unless you want to drive into one. Walk through some bushes? You can get inside.

Flop Houses? Have you ever heard of Grow Houses? That is what you have in SW Florida, and not very far away from some very nice communities. Cars coming and going at all times of the day and night to these houses. I am sure Don knows what I mean. Are these "customers" all illegals too?

Illegals taking away jobs? How about citizens IN other countries taking your job away? IT and offshoring. The person does not actually even need to be physically present in the country to take away your job. This happened to my husband three times. What immigrant, legal or not?

Sure you can get inside but you cant live there.
Don't know where BOS lives but I lived in a small town with a Tyson plant in a house across the street from a flop house. Not drug houses. People moving in, moving out all hours of the night, under darkness. Vans picking them up each morning to work at the chicken plant. Several other houses rented to multiple families working at the chicken plant and receiving benefits for the kids.




Yes taking jobs. Often in construction by working cheap. Jobs previously held by blue collar, lower paid individuals. Much easier to do when you live 15 to a single family home and the women get benefits for the children, food stamps, housing subsidies, free medical, free education. Of course these are rentals, so no increase in property taxes to help pay for the free educations, breakfast, lunch, before and after school programs, busses, etc. But rental prices did go up, if you could find one at all.


The plant in my town was raided a few times, they lost a class action suite for hiring discrimination. They would not hire local citizens. 90% of their employees were illegals. My kids who work in construction saw their wages drop by about 4-5 dollars/hr.


Our schools were so overrun with non English speaking illegals that the district sent notes allowing citizens to place their children in schools in neighboring towns and counties because the lack of education and teacher/child ratio was so bad. Teachers were overwhelmed, resources were overwhelmed.


The ER and Health Department, OMG. DMV, forget about it.
Increased traffic. It was pretty common to see an accident and 4 or 5 people (illegals) jump out and run. Because most didn't have a DL, none had insurance. And living in flop houses and moving about if they were caught they never made it to court.
Court. Busting at the seems and much need for interpreters. Jails overflowing. Police officers, need more.
I'm sure you wouldn't believe the stories they had to tell (my brother is an officer).


Sure we have our own homegrown riff raff and I'd say most illegals are good people but as a whole illegals, who have no legal right to be here, contribute little to our economy, less than they take, and little to our communities.
 
Old 06-04-2018, 02:41 PM
 
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They aren't treated differently than US citizens who commit crimes. Actually they are treated better.
They have asked for and seeking asylum after running from danger. There is nothing illegal about that...derp derp!

It's sociopathic!! And only a sociopath does not recognize sociopathy when it stares them in the face.

Trump, Sessions and their cohorts deserve to be drawn and quartered for crimes against humanity.

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Old 06-04-2018, 02:57 PM
 
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They have asked for and seeking asylum after running from danger. There is nothing illegal about that...derp derp!

It's sociopathic!! And only a sociopath does not recognize sociopathy when it stares them in the face.
Anybody can ask for asylum, but there is very strict criteria for that. If that criteria is not met, then those lying about "running from danger" are nothing but criminals trying to sneak into our country illegally.

Nothing sociopathic about wanting folks to obey laws. In fact, thinking the law doesn't apply to you is a sign of being a sociopath.
 
Old 06-04-2018, 03:00 PM
 
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Anybody can ask for asylum, but there is very strict criteria for that. If that criteria is not met, then those lying about "running from danger" are nothing but criminals trying to sneak into our country illegally.

Nothing sociopathic about wanting folks to obey laws. In fact, thinking the law doesn't apply to you is a sign of being a sociopath.
SOCIOPATHIC!!! Children should not be ripped from their mothers while the process is unfolding. SADISTIC...own it!

Tax dollars are paying private contractors to warehouse babies in closed Walmart stores and not allowing inspections. SOCIOPATHIC and CORRUPT!!!!!

Save the Fetus/Screw the Child!!!

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Old 06-04-2018, 06:45 PM
 
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Default Ripped from their mothers

Is it known, or not, whether the mothers have the

option to not be ripped from their offspring?

If they have the option to keep their kids,

then they are the ones who are selfish, ignorant

and poor examples of parents.


This sort of


'me first, and as for the kids...who cares?-attitude'


is not normal for most American families.


Granted, we do have American families who

have tortured, neglected, and starved, etc.

their kids... Two very recent examples in the news

one in California, and the other I don't recall, but it was

in last week's news.




And those are just the families who have been discovered

mistreating horribly their children in good old America.


If the hordes of mothers have a choice of

not being able to stay, but their babies/kids, can stay,

any normal mom would keep her child, and give up on

America as her residence.


It's what good parents do. They sacrifice for the welfare

of the child.

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Old 06-04-2018, 06:47 PM
 
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SOCIOPATHIC!!! Children should not be ripped from their mothers while the process is unfolding. SADISTIC...own it!

Tax dollars are paying private contractors to warehouse babies in closed Walmart stores and not allowing inspections. SOCIOPATHIC and CORRUPT!!!!!

Save the Fetus/Screw the Child!!!
Nothing "sociopathic" about it at all---and you know it, too.

You also know that everyday Americans commit crimes, go to jail and are separated from their kids. Some of these criminals justified their crimes by claiming that they were only trying to give their kids a better life. For example, they were robbing banks or dealing drugs and claim it was to give their kids a better life.

There is nothing "sociopathic" about that at all. Unless you think that criminals should never have to pay any consequences for breaking the law.

If these so-called "asylum seekers" were truly looking for asylum, they would have asked Mexico for it. Yet so very, very few did so. The ones who didn't were ones with bogus claims. They would tell any lie to get to stay in the US---and you know it, too.

They were warned ahead of arriving here that they would be separated from their kids.

Illegals deliberately separate themselves from their kids. Many sneak in here all the while leaving a family in their own country. Once they are here, they start new families. Or how about the ones who pay a coyote to smuggle their kid into the US? What decent parent hands their child over to a total stranger to take them hundreds of miles away? Many of these kids end up raped, trafficked or killed.

And, BTW, this is in no way, shape or form anything like what happened in the Holocaust. When you make such bogus comparisons, you trivialize the suffering that Holocaust victims went through---and that is despicable.
 
Old 06-04-2018, 10:37 PM
 
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Nothing "sociopathic" about it at all---and you know it, too.

You also know that everyday Americans commit crimes, go to jail and are separated from their kids. Some of these criminals justified their crimes by claiming that they were only trying to give their kids a better life. For example, they were robbing banks or dealing drugs and claim it was to give their kids a better life.

There is nothing "sociopathic" about that at all. Unless you think that criminals should never have to pay any consequences for breaking the law.

If these so-called "asylum seekers" were truly looking for asylum, they would have asked Mexico for it. Yet so very, very few did so. The ones who didn't were ones with bogus claims. They would tell any lie to get to stay in the US---and you know it, too.

They were warned ahead of arriving here that they would be separated from their kids.

Illegals deliberately separate themselves from their kids. Many sneak in here all the while leaving a family in their own country. Once they are here, they start new families. Or how about the ones who pay a coyote to smuggle their kid into the US? What decent parent hands their child over to a total stranger to take them hundreds of miles away? Many of these kids end up raped, trafficked or killed.

And, BTW, this is in no way, shape or form anything like what happened in the Holocaust. When you make such bogus comparisons, you trivialize the suffering that Holocaust victims went through---and that is despicable.
You are parroting right wing rhetoric. It is not illegal to seek asylum and while the case is being investigated you DONT RIP KIDS AWAY from their mothers It's a ****ing no brainer if one is a human being that can withstand DNA testing to prove that they are in fact human.
 
Old 06-04-2018, 11:54 PM
 
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You are parroting right wing rhetoric. It is not illegal to seek asylum and while the case is being investigated you DONT RIP KIDS AWAY from their mothers It's a ****ing no brainer if one is a human being that can withstand DNA testing to prove that they are in fact human.
If they really were in need of asylum, they would have asked for it when they were in Mexico. Instead, they put their kids through the wringer by dragging them through Mexico---even riding La Bestia which is very dangerous and many who have done so ended up dying. The fact that they put their kids through this abuse rather than ask for asylum in Mexico, shows that their need for asylum is bogus. Why would they not ask the Mexicans for asylum? It would be a lot less stressful on their kids. We all know why they want to come here---it's for the freebies.

I'm glad that things aren't being done the old way which was to give them a court date, then release them. With the old way, well over 90% never showed up for their court date. It's about time we stopped these bogus asylum seekers from taking advantage of us

Not everybody who is against illegal immigration is a right winger, btw.
 
Old 06-05-2018, 03:10 AM
 
Location: Sunshine Coast, QLD
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SOCIOPATHIC!!! Children should not be ripped from their mothers while the process is unfolding. SADISTIC...own it!

Tax dollars are paying private contractors to warehouse babies in closed Walmart stores and not allowing inspections. SOCIOPATHIC and CORRUPT!!!!!

Save the Fetus/Screw the Child!!!

Just a tad emotional, hysterical and overly dramatic today?
Many of those parents placed their children in those situations by trying to circumvent or outright ignore America's immigration laws and policies. Letting emotions dictate laws for any country,much less one the size of America, isn't a good way to go. Merkel in Germany for all emotional after seeing a pic of that dead little boy on the beach- which led to her basically opening the floodgates for Muslim migrants to flood Germany- how's THAT working out? Yes innocent children suffering is a terrible thing and must be avoided as much as possible; America should do it's best to make sure that doesn't occur- but again, the parents chose to put their kids in potentially that situation. Shouldn't a country's priorities be with it's own tax paying citizens?
Nothing sociopathic about caring for your own citizens and those who play by the rules first, is it?
There's something wrong with those who want to pander to emotions and kowtow to those who blatantly choose to give the middle finger to America's people and laws for their own selfish gain.
Go to Mexico and flout THEIR laws and make demands- see how that works out, or personally take care of as many of these folks you want out of your own pocket, if it means SO much to you! WHY is wanting immigrants to follow the laws and wanting to care for American taxpayers first considered sociopathic?
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