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Nothing I have stated is off base. It just may be off your radar.
There are NUMEROUS violent people who are coming over the border for the purpose of killing Americans. Those with honest motives for coming here are caught in the middle.
If we have to keep them out because of the evils for now to protect Americans then that is the way it is.
There is no softie, PC, kind of solution during war. We try to take the best approach for all concerned, but there are those using the children of willing and unwilling parents from other countries to invade our county.
Anyone wanting to go to the border and cross over illegally to reside with those "mothers and their babies" to help them then by all means do so.
In case you are not informed of this, there are millions of Americans who are cute black girls, cute black boys, ugly old people, ugly young people who should be and are being protected.
Your playing on emotions and bias is telling when your concern is for anyone who is not American and not a "pretty white girl".
Sorry, I don't think you're capable of rational discussion, because you're more concerned with defending your post than accepting that this is a more complex problem than you've suggested.
I said you were off-base in representing yourself as a "softie" when it comes to immigrant children. That was absolutely correct, as evidenced by your latest post. Your solution wasn't to take in the mothers and children (which is what a "softie" would do). Your solution was this:
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Originally Posted by 4dognight
Anyone wanting to go to the border and cross over illegally to reside with those "mothers and their babies" to help them then by all means do so.
So they're not your problem. Understood, Mr. Softie.
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Originally Posted by 4dognight
Your playing on emotions and bias is telling when your concern is for anyone who is not American and not a "pretty white girl".
You seem to have misunderstood the dynamic at play here. Conservatives have been using the "bad hombre" victimizes "pretty white girl" angle to drum up outrage and push Trump's wall agenda.
Direct quote from Trump's West Virginia rally (about Mollie Tibbetts):
"You heard about today with the illegal alien coming in, very sadly, from Mexico and you saw what happened to that incredible, beautiful young woman."
Direct quote from a Trump campaign event in 2015 (about Kate Steinle):
"I am so proud of the fact that I got dialogue started on illegal immigration. … Beautiful Kate in San Francisco was shot by an illegal who was here five times and they couldn’t do anything about it."
Yes, there are black people and ugly people in American who deserve to be protected, but they aren't as interesting to Trump and his base, because nothing brings out the "softie" in you like a young, attractive white girl who had her whole life ahead of her.
I blame Obama who put out the welcome mat and essentially let it be known that if you can get a foot in America you will be welcomed in under some sort of program be it DACA, a refugee status or asylum seeker.
Illegal immigration has been silently supported by both Republicans and Democrats for decades due to the influence of the Big Agriculture lobby, who need a supply of cheap labor.
Illegal immigration has been silently supported by both Republicans and Democrats for decades due to the influence of the Big Agriculture lobby, who need a supply of cheap labor.
Actually, only 2% of illegal aliens are working in the AG industry and there are unlimited visas for legal, foreign workers for those jobs. Most of them are doing other jobs that Americans have always done for a fair wage. It's not the AG industry that's the real problem.
Actually, only 2% of illegal aliens are working in the AG industry and there are unlimited visas for legal, foreign workers for those jobs. Most of them are doing other jobs that Americans have always done for a fair wage. It's not the AG industry that's the real problem.
Where does this figure come from? I imagine it would be difficult to find accurate documentation for undocumented workers.
Sorry, I don't think you're capable of rational discussion, because you're more concerned with defending your post than accepting that this is a more complex problem than you've suggested.
I said you were off-base in representing yourself as a "softie" when it comes to immigrant children. That was absolutely correct, as evidenced by your latest post. Your solution wasn't to take in the mothers and children (which is what a "softie" would do). Your solution was this:
So they're not your problem. Understood, Mr. Softie.
You seem to have misunderstood the dynamic at play here. Conservatives have been using the "bad hombre" victimizes "pretty white girl" angle to drum up outrage and push Trump's wall agenda.
Direct quote from Trump's West Virginia rally (about Mollie Tibbetts):
"You heard about today with the illegal alien coming in, very sadly, from Mexico and you saw what happened to that incredible, beautiful young woman."
Direct quote from a Trump campaign event in 2015 (about Kate Steinle):
"I am so proud of the fact that I got dialogue started on illegal immigration. … Beautiful Kate in San Francisco was shot by an illegal who was here five times and they couldn’t do anything about it."
Yes, there are black people and ugly people in American who deserve to be protected, but they aren't as interesting to Trump and his base, because nothing brings out the "softie" in you like a young, attractive white girl who had her whole life ahead of her.
There is no evidence that Trump and his supporters are only concerned about protecting white women that's just biased race baiting and not a lick of truth to it. There is also no need to mention the skin color of illegal aliens either as that's also race baiting. Bringing race or skin color into this issue serves no purpose and is irrelevant.
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Where does this figure come from? I imagine it would be difficult to find accurate documentation for undocumented workers.
A few years ago Pew estimated that only 2% of illegal aliens were working in the AG industry. They have since updated it to between 3-4% still a relatively small number compared to the other industries that illegal aliens work in.
"But as a share of all the jobs held by illegal immigrants in the country, farming does indeed represent a small percentage".
"About 3 percent of illegal immigrants were working in farming and related sectors, according to Pew, which was well below the percentage working in service occupations (33 percent), construction and extractive jobs (17 percent), production, installation and repair (16 percent) and transportation and moving (8 percent). A subsequent Pew study pegged the number working in farming and related sectors slightly higher, at 4 percent".
Nothing I have stated is off base. It just may be off your radar.
There are NUMEROUS violent people who are coming over the border for the purpose of killing Americans. Those with honest motives for coming here are caught in the middle.
If we have to keep them out because of the evils for now to protect Americans then that is the way it is.
There is no softie, PC, kind of solution during war. We try to take the best approach for all concerned, but there are those using the children of willing and unwilling parents from other countries to invade our county.
Anyone wanting to go to the border and cross over illegally to reside with those "mothers and their babies" to help them then by all means do so.
In case you are not informed of this, there are millions of Americans who are cute black girls, cute black boys, ugly old people, ugly young people who should be and are being protected.
Your playing on emotions and bias is telling when your concern is for anyone who is not American and not a "pretty white girl".
Well said in response to PO's post.
It is all about perception. Another comment said that Obama deported more people than Trump has yet somehow Trump is a Hitler and Obama is still a saint?
The problem is with Liberals. It is basic common sense to know that unfettered illegal immigration is bad for any country but the Libs love it. The media shows us kids being ripped from the arms of their mothers but they never show us the 20 year old guy with the neck tattoos.
When the Boston Marathon was bombed by the 2 terrorists some idiotic Dem came out and said it was our fault because we didn't show them enough love... The family was on welfare and they were allowed to travel back to their homeland and the younger one was enrolled in college here. How much more love could we have given them?
It is the Liberal mind that is a danger to us all. They want to help the kids which is noble but they think that they can also help the gang banger see the light. Maybe they will but probably not and they are willing to risk our lives on the gamble.
The Left calls to break up ICE but ICE does good work by removing known criminals from immigrant communities.
Separating kids from parents at the border was not a good idea but what if it was found out that the father was wanted for murder back home or was a pedophile? How about if the mom was a prostitute, addict and was charged with child neglect back home? Should these people be allowed to enter America? Should they be allowed to keep their kids?
America needs to wake up out of its Liberal nappy snooze fest before it all turns into a nightmare.
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